It's a notion available at your local fabric store....a glue that stays flexible and will withstand washing. Dorothy Compton Bee Embroidered _www.BeeEmbroidered.com_ (http://www.beeembroidered.com/) (916) 635-7467 Rancho Cordova, CA In a message dated 12/6/2005 7:05:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, candael@xxxxxxxxx writes: Thank you for your answer. One more question : What is fray check ? Thanks, Cindy "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: We were told in training to avoid satin stitches over 1/4" wide. Supposedly there are two 'fills' that simulate satin stitching but stitch down in the pattern but havent' had time to figure out which ones it is....on lettering that we think might get loose (satin jackets, etc.) we go over the inside of the embroidery with Fray check -trace the lettering right down the bobbin thread from the back. That 'glues' the thread ends together without showing on the front-and we haven't seen the thread coming loose yet. (a Limo service showed us his jacket from another shop-wearing it while drivi ng had pulled all the stitching on the back right off. So far, couple of months-the one we did and 'sealed' hasn't pulled yet!) Anything over 1/4" we do with a fill stitch anyways. Roland