Dean, I bought and use the 7n1 fast frames. For some of the things I do that WAS my only choice. I do not like the sticky backing as it really gums up the needles. When using the fast frames, I usually use clamps or clips to hold the item. If I were buying something NOW where there IS a choice I would probably pick the clamping system as it seems it should do the job without the backing issue. Remember though I have not tried the clamping system. Terri Hoover Embroidery Creations -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of HK Acree Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:04 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: slim line hoop clamp Dean, I'm going to own up here. I bought the fast frames and frankly find them pretty much a waste of money. While there have been a few projects they did make easier, after some experience I could have done them without the fast frames. The adhesive is not strong enough to hold much of anything. If I had it to do over I would have gone for a clamping system. Herb Royal Embroidery ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Zellman" <mrstitch@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:15 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: slim line hoop clamp > On this subject, > > I have the chance to get either the Fast Frame hooping system - the one > where you use sticky paper or the Hooptec clamping system. > > Can anyone give me some feedback on one over the other? > > Thanks > > Dean Zellman > Mr. Stitch Embroidery > (818) 386-9626 > Visit us on the Web at www.mr-stitch.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roland R. Irish > III > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:03 AM > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [amayausers] Re: slim line hoop clamp > > > Anyone seen and/or using the Hooptec slim line clamping system on the > Amaya? From what info I've recieved it has a lower profile than the > regular hooptech and the Melco hooping clamp so it won't run into the > presser foot and needle head? Roland > >