This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/4/698.html#000007 I've used the 4.5" round (Melco gray) hoop on cap backs, found it flattens the material with no bunching up like a rectangular hoop might do...maybe that's the difference? Tried using the speed clamp and it wouldn't hold the caps down flat without the ripples in the material. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================