This message was posted by sschroed2 on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/1070.html#000001 I sew the same design on shirts and hats frequently with a lot of detail. Are you slowing the machine down to around 600spm? Are you using the cap backing cut at approx 14" long? Are you using the WACF cap frame or the CCF capframe? For most of us the WACF is very hard to learn how to hoop well, there are some videos I believe attached to this website to show you how to do it. Also I use Titanium sharp needles 75/11 to sew hats. Also, make sure your design does not exceed around 2 1./2" tall and sews from the bottom up. Sue =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================