Roland, I have not done this. I have thought about making a density chart, actually started doing it about a year ago. Had to put it aside to work on a job, and unfortunately, havent' picked it up again. Would you be willing to share the design you used for the 16 colors? If so, I would be interested. -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roland R. Irish III Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:57 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: fill pattern sew out samples Has anyone made up a design/pattern to sewout samples of the different fill patterns? I made up a design (using the largest wooden hoop) with boxes overlapping each other-when sewn out, you have EVERY single one of your 16 colors overlapping or being overlapped by two other colors-so you can show comparison possibilities and contrasts! Took a while to sew out-but it helps pick colors! I want to sew out all the different fill patters so before I make up something figured I'd ask if someone already has it....next will be sewouts of the fonts-4 sizes of each, to show how small /large each font can be used. Best way to pick them for designs, and good practice doing it! Roland