Hi Jeff, I sent 4 files earlier - 3 created/edited in V 6.08.027 (I think), the fourth in V 5....? Yesterday, after the V 6.08.522 was loaded is when the thread detection turned off. When doing the Batch Converter, could all my design files be done no matter what version of software they were created/edited? Also, by converting to an earlier version will some other feature be lost on the design files? Thanks, Terri Embroidery Creations -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Banks Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:33 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Version 6.08.522 Terri, What version of 6.08? There is 6.08.522 just out more recently, then the previous 6.08.027, or 6.08.042 etc. Can you send me a couple of the files that do not have the values on? The only way to change the values is to open the files, change the values to on, then re-save the file. I will look at the files you send tomorrow and see what is exactly going on? I do know we had one version of the software that was saving some values incorrectly. It may be these values, but I thought it was a Beta version that was not distributed to everyone? As I was writing this, I figured out a way to fix them all at one time. There is a feature in the software called Batch Converter. It allows the opening and saving of files from one version to another automatically. It will convert an entire folder of files at one time. Open DS and click on File New so it opens an empty screen or file, then go to Tools, then Batch Converter. (Before this put all the files you want to convert in one folder.) There is a Source Folder setting, then a Destination folder Setting. In the Source Folder setting use the Browse button to go to the folder that has all the files you want to convert. Then set the Destination Folder where you want them to be saved to as they are converted. Choose Melco OFM file for the Input File type, and for the Output File type select version 5.07. Then click on Convert. After converting them, open a few of them and make sure that the Thread and Bobbin detect are on in them. But as the version 5 files all seem to have the thread detect setting correct, this should fix them all. I tried it here on a few that I purposely turned off the values, then saved them as version 5 files and re-opened them and the values were defaulted back to on. If you would though, I still would like a couple of them before you convert them to look at and test to be sure what is going on. Jeff Banks Melco Embroidery Systems ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:58 PM Subject: [amayausers] Re: Version 6.08.522 Jeff, A little more on this - it appears that file that were created or edited in the 5.0 version have the 2 detections boxes checked in DS. File that were created or edited in V 6.08 do NOT have the boxes checked. What should/can I do to make sure all design files have the boxes checked? Is there a default setting somewhere? Thanks, Terri -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lee or Terri Hoover Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:47 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Version 6.08.522 Jeff, You are right on. I missed the 2 thread detections on the Amaya tab in DS, did not even see them when I set the MT there. :) As to why they were not checked there - don't know. It appears that most if not all of my designs do not have them checked. I don't believe they were there when I got my machine, at least looking at my DS book they weren't. When they were added, was the default for them to be checked? I'm making a guess that all mine were unchecked. Thanks again, Terri -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Banks Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:07 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Version 6.08.522 Hi Terri, As time has gone by, new versions have had new items added to the list of items that can be controlled by settings held in the design. Also, the ability to set and control these items has been added to Design Shop as well. Items like Thread Break On/Off, Bobbin Control on/off have been added to the list and can be set in the Properties Displays in Design Shop now as well. Some of the control and setting of these items was added in version 6.08.xxx and more control like the Auto Actifeed was added in the new version 7 stuff. The control can be set at the entire design level, and also in the Settings By Color feature. Open a design in Design Shop, then at the Project Level, or the top of the Tree on the Project TAB on the right, right click the mouse on the top item or Project name, then go to Properties, then click on the Amaya TAB. Notice the check marks for enabling Thread Break and Bobbin Break Control. I have a feeling that the design you were using has the bobbin control turned off in it? Open it in Design Shop, go the Design Properties, then to the Amaya TAB, turn both check marks on, then re-save the design. Then load it into Amaya with Use Settings From Design on. It should be ok. Now comes the question of how the thread break detection got turned off in the design to begin with. I would have to know more about the design and how it was made, what version it was made in etc. to try and figure that out. :) Jeff Banks Melco Embroidery Systems ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:45 PM Subject: [amayausers] Re: Version 6.08.522 Jeff, Thanks so much for all the info and help you provide. I usually and did have the "Use Settings from Design" on. However, I "thought" (always gets me in trouble :) ) that when saving a design in DS, then with "use settings" in OS would bring in things like color, hoop size NOT thread detection being on or off. Is there somewhere in DS you can set those things for a design? Thread and bobbin detection to me are machine control/OS. Just trying to understand. Thanks, Terri Embroidery Creations -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Banks Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:21 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Version 6.08.522 Terri, Check the settings for Use Settings From Design being on. If it is on, turn it off. The settings in the file, or saved could be wrong and then configuring the machine accordingly. Also, there are new RSA/CSA files for the 6.08.522 software. I posted earlier the place to go download this patch. If you need it again, let know and I can steer you to the place to get it and get it installed correctly. Jeff Banks Melco Embroidery Systems ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: [amayausers] Version 6.08.522 Hi All, Was wondering if anyone else had this issue? Is it a one time thing? Loaded this version on PC, rebooted PC (Amaya was off). Edited and saved design in Design Shop. Opened OS, configured machine, checked the settings to make sure all thread detection, etc is on, everything was set as I wanted except I needed to turn on the maintenance times and make the hook type uncoated. Clicked OK after I looked at all the tabs in settings. Loaded Design, clicked radio button for auto Actifeed. (Just amazing, sewed on t-shirt, varied from 4 to 6 to 2 to 1. Went to the 2 then 1 after thread breaks. But I digress.) Finished sewing design. Edit same design and save. Load it in OS. Press Start and it sews all the way through. (I'm watching the MT and it stays at 5 the whole time.) When I go to pull the hoop off the machine I find that about 1/3 of the design has sewn the rest is a mass of thread dangling. So I ask myself what the heck! And why did the thread detection not stop the machine. Look at settings, and all things have been changed. i.e. Enable All Thread Detection is OFF. No one is here but me. I do think there is a gremlin. Reset settings to for thread detection ON. Load a different design, check settings and the detection is OFF. Any ideas? Why do I need to set the settings every time? Terri Embroidery Creations