Thomas, I think .25 is what may have been recommended, and is the software default, .025 is going trim between every letter. There is no setting for "Trim only as necessary", I think you are referring to the "When to Tie:" setting which has 2 choices, Always or Only When Necessary and only effects Tie Stitches, not trimming? Recommended settings for Automatic Trims are going to depend on what you want to do? You will want to use different settings and are going to vary depending on alphabet used, letter size, distance between letters, whether you want it to trim between every letter or just between words etc. If you are using a Script alphabet, I recommend to NOT use automatic trimming, and use the Trim Command in the Lettering dialogue Window to put trims in-between Capital letters and/or words where you may want them. Jeff Banks Melco Embroidery Systems ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas LaDow" <tcladow@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:09 PM Subject: [amayausers] Trim Command I was sewing Script names today (Melco Script font style) and the AMAYA kept trimming after every letter even though they were connected as they are in script. Way too much trim and tie off time. I went to propery box in trim commands and it was defaulted to "Trim only when necessarty" and the "Trim Greater than" was set at .025. This was the recommended default settings from Chicago class I attended. What is recommended settings on the trim commands and tie in/tie off settings? Tom LaDow Creative Promotions