[amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
- From: "pat" <post@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:43:30 -0400
Herb,
No I did not uninstall the earlier version. It was my impression that an
update is just that, an update to a program.
I'm working with Windows XP, When I got ahold of tech support this
afternoon. The guy told me it was probably my ethernet card. A quick call to
my computer guy hit that in the head! Then late this pm, I received a call
back from the very first person in tech support that I talked to. Seems the
network we have required the computer to have two ethernet cards. Once the
other card was clicked on, force download checked and SURPRISE.... it
worked! However, in the meantime I had uninstalled and reinstalled both
Design Shop Pro and the OS several times. I now have the 2004 version -
working - and I really don't think I'm going to try the update again.
Pat
----- Original Message -----
From: "HK Acree" <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:02 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> Pat,
> Believe Rod & Sharon are both in Portland this week. We may not be able to
> get to them very quickly.
> 1st question. When you got ready to install the new stuff did you
uninstall
> the earlier version? If so how?
> 2nd, what operating system are you working with?
>
> Herb
> Royal Embroidery
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pat" <post@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:08 PM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
>
> > Rod or Sharon:
> > Hate to get off the subject but I need help!! Doing upgrades to both
Amaya
> > and DesignShop Pro to 2005. First the machines would not communicate,
now
> > I
> > can't get the OS to recognize the 2 machines. The Machine Configuration
> > Wizard must be really stumped. Any suggestions?
> > Embroiderysew
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:03 PM
> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >
> >
> >> To answer for Herb.....yes, this procedure can be done by anyone as
long
> > as
> >> the instructions are followed carefully on Hook Timing procedures.
> >> Electronics, other than operating the computer, really plays no part in
> >> setting the hook timing, it is almost all mechanical in nature.
> >>
> >> Rod
> >>
> >>
> >> Embroidery Cottage
> >> Rod & Sharon Springer
> >> Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
> >> Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
> >>
> >> Boise, ID 83713
> >> 208-938-3038
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:18 PM
> >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi Herb,
> >> >
> >> > Can an inexperienced person who has electronic experience do the hook
> >> > timing?
> >> >
> >> > Terri
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of HK Acree
> >> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:48 PM
> >> > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >> >
> >> > Gonna throw my thoughts in here as I am in the process of retiming
the
> >> > hook.
> >> >
> >> > Was having some thread break issues that I could not trace to the
> >> > usual.
> >> > (Rollers, needles, mat thickness, bobbins). Found my hook timing
> > retarded
> >> > .7
> >> >
> >> > of a degree. Was having fraying type thread issues. We shall see what
> >> > happens. My plastic covers have small marks in them as well, but have
> > had
> >> > for some time. I don't think they are an issue.
> >> >
> >> > Herb
> >> > Royal Embroidery
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:12 PM
> >> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> No needle breaks. Thread frays down by the needle. Have noticed a
> >> >> few
> >> >> times of not getting a good trim, thread expands, sews another area,
> > then
> >> >> frays. Checked and double checked that needles are in correctly. As
> > far
> >> >> as
> >> >> we can tell the needles are not rotated too far. Have altered
> >> >> numerous
> >> >> times to see if any improvement. Looked at the bobbin and bobbin
> >> >> area,
> >> >> and
> >> >> as far as we can tell everything is ok. Never inserted anything
other
> >> >> than
> >> >> a business card in the bobbin for cleaning. I'm sure that most of
> >> >> this
> >> >> is
> >> >> operator error but it is very frustrating as I can't seem to get any
> >> >> "clean,
> >> >> continuous" results.
> >> >>
> >> >> Terri
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:57 PM
> >> >> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >> >>
> >> >> The thread frays that you are having, does the thread fray around
the
> >> >> thread
> >> >> feed roller cover or does it fray down by the needle area?
> >> >> Have you broken many needles in the time frame you've had the
machine?
> >> >> Ed
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> >> >> E.M. Broidery
> >> >> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> >> >> New Orleans, La. 70056
> >> >> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri
> > Hoover
> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:35 PM
> >> >> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed,
> >> >>
> >> >> Never had metallic thread on the machine. I've had my machine since
> > late
> >> >> May 2004 and have not done a lot of sewing. In fact just did the 4
> >> >> mil
> >> >> maintenance. (I've changed rollers as needed before this.) The
> > material
> >> >> thickness is set anywhere from 4 to 12 depending on garments. (I've
> > only
> >> >> sewn 3 caps.) It seems as of late that have been having a lot of
> > fraying
> >> >> thread breaks. To the point that I'm afraid to sew on anything that
> >> >> "real".
> >> >> I'm thinking that the thread may be getting caught on this groove.
> >> >> Typically on these fraying thread breaks, the thread is NOT around
the
> >> >> roller or bundled up under the cover. I've been avoid all 7 needles
> > that
> >> >> have the cut in the cover.
> >> >> The cut is below the little dip/groove in the cover.
> >> >>
> >> >> Terri
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:23 PM
> >> >> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you using metallic thread??? We've been running for three years
> > and
> >> >> haven't seen grooves in the black plastic cover yet. Could you have
> >> >> gotten
> >> >> a bad batch? What is the average Material Thickness setting that
you
> >> >> run.
> >> >> Do you ever change this setting as you sew different garments?
> >> >> If the groove in the cover isn't causing damage to the thread, I
> >> >> don't see
> >> >> were it would be a problem. The grooves in the thread feed roller
are
> > an
> >> >> issue because you need consistent pressure from the red roller
above.
> >> >> The
> >> >> black cover is just that, a cover. The cover does have a "dovetail"
> >> >> thread
> >> >> guide notch, but that is up and above the thread feed roller window.
> > Is
> >> >> that the groove you're talking about?
> >> >> Ed
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> >> >> E.M. Broidery
> >> >> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> >> >> New Orleans, La. 70056
> >> >> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri
> > Hoover
> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:52 PM
> >> >> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Along this same line, has anyone had any problems with black cover
of
> > the
> >> >> roller getting a cut in it. Some of mine have. Granted my
experience
> > at
> >> >> correctly embroidering is small, but have not had any bird nests or
> > other
> >> >> thing that have caused problems to the actual rollers. My rollers
in
> >> >> fact
> >> >> look really good compared to the picture in the Amaya book. The
have
> >> >> only
> >> >> had 1 or 2 nicks. So what would cause the "cut" in the black cover.
> >> >> I
> >> >> can
> >> >> see it and drag a nail across it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Terri
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Body Cover
> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:45 PM
> >> >> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >> >>
> >> >> The exasperation is real
> >> >> I haven't experienced it to your level though
> >> >> I try to hold the tip way up and hook the lip of the back
> >> >> in first, try and hold it as level (left to right) as possible
> >> >> it does want to touch the red roller also. I have also
> >> >> had good luck with holding it on both sides, better leverage
> >> >> and my fingers are too big to get too close.
> >> >> let it ride in on the top of the replaced feed roller
> >> >> then lift it slightly. also you may try to get a stool and a
> >> >> flashlight
> >> >> and look at it from above the red roller and guide it in that
> >> >> way, I do know unless it's right it won't snap down right
> >> >> I wish I had a good trick to share with you.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> as far as the upper adjustment you'll be happy to know
> >> >> that all you can do is raise and lower the fabric thickness
> >> >> if it is acting erratic I'll bet you have grooves and gunk on the
> > rollers
> >> >> and sad to say I'll bet a lot of them are bad, which means lots
> >> >> of practice changing out rollers.
> >> >> One tip I can give that we learned the hard way.
> >> >> to inspect the roller, you need to actually pull it out.
> >> >> We kept having problems on one needle and when I looked
> >> >> I never saw a groove but after 2 or 3 looks I finally pulled it out
> >> >> and found a nasty gash on the backside.
> >> >> I guess I got unlucky and looked at the good spot three times in a
> >> >> row!
> >> >> the point is, now if I even think of thread feed problems I swap
> > rollers
> >> >> and see if the problem disappears. then I throw the old ones in a
box
> >> >> as backups in case I need another and have no new ones left.
> >> >> I can clean an old one with alcohol or eraser as described in this
> >> >> list
> >> >> and make due as long as there no wear grooves or cuts.
> >> >> and don't think it has to birdnest or go really wrong to make a cut
or
> >> >> groove,
> >> >> it is a normal wear and tear thing, it is not an "IF" it is a "WHEN"
> >> >> so buy extras next time you order supplies and be ready
> >> >>
> >> >> Ron Vinyard
> >> >> Body Cover / Magic Stitches
> >> >> 1-888-435-0176
> >> >>
> >> >> 420 SW H street
> >> >> Grants Pass, OR 97526
> >> >>
> >> >> info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> www.bodycoverdesign.com
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: <embroideryexpress@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:17 AM
> >> >> Subject: [amayausers] Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>I can now get the thread feed rollers in and out easily enough.
> >> >>> My frustration is replacing the black cover...I have spent 45
minutes
> >> >>> plus
> >> >> several times and then I walk away and leave that
> >> >>> needle OUT OF THE LOOP for several days...anyone have any tips for
> >> >> replacing that easily. I wrestled it last night...again this
> >> >>> morning and my nerves are shot I plan to stop in and see the
> >> >>> salesman
> >> >>> at
> >> >> the NNEP conference and have him demonstrate this for
> >> >>> me.....
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have a helper that says I need to tighten the upper tension...I
> >> >>> explain
> >> >> that I can't (not too easily as she is Vietnamese and
> >> >>> our communications are VERY LIMITED....) Does there come a time
that
> >> >>> some
> >> >> adjustment is necessary.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I suspect there are grooves in my thread feed rollers but am
> >> >>> reluctant
> >> >>> to
> >> >> check based on problems described above....
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Anyone have expereince with other brand machines....
> >> >>> easier? sewing quality the same or better?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My two year warranty is about to expire and I need to decide what
to
> >> >> do....also considering adding a machine....another AMAYA or 2
> >> >>> or 4 head ? DECISIONS...DECISIONS!!!!!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Shannon
> >> >>> Embroidery Express
> >> >>> Olney MD
> >> >>
> >> >>
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