[amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
- From: "Body Cover" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:00:47 -0700
Take a minute and really check out the bobbin case
make sure there are no nicks or kinks that bind up the thread.
We had a similar problem with noise and torn thread
and knotting ended up replacing the bobbin case with the spare and
the problem disappeared.
Ron Vinyard
Body Cover / Magic Stitches
1-888-435-0176
420 SW H street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bodycoverdesign.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:16 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> All of this info is enlightening to say the least. After attempting to sew
> a towel with a 2 inch name today, I'm beginning to really believe it is not
> the needle, roller, etc. Sometimes when sewing you can hear this k-lunk, it
> will keep on sewing but the thread is bunched up/knotted in an area and
> sparse following that area. Varying the needle number does not seem to make
> a difference. Other times the thread actually breaks (fraying), which is
> much easier and looks better.
>
> I think I'll bet the tools out, buy a strong pair of over the counter
> reading glasses and check the "timing".
>
> Thanks to everyone for you help and support.
>
>
> Terri
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:46 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
> How about the needle plate to needle centering? Could you have
> scratches
> in the hole of the needle plate? Very tricky to see sometimes. You might
> have scratches on the retaining finger. That is the piece that keeps the
> bobbin basket from spinning with the rotary hook. This would be hard to see
> and if you disassembled to investigate, make sure you replace it in the same
> spot it was in.
> I'm guessing this is happening on every needle? If you do wind up
> having
> the rotary hook replaced by a technician, know that the hook is considered a
> consumable part and except for some rare occasions, is usually not covered
> by the warranty. Not trying to upset anyone, just stating the facts.
>
> Ed
>
> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> E.M. Broidery
> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> New Orleans, La. 70056
> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri Hoover
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:12 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
>
> No needle breaks. Thread frays down by the needle. Have noticed a few
> times of not getting a good trim, thread expands, sews another area, then
> frays. Checked and double checked that needles are in correctly. As far as
> we can tell the needles are not rotated too far. Have altered numerous
> times to see if any improvement. Looked at the bobbin and bobbin area, and
> as far as we can tell everything is ok. Never inserted anything other than
> a business card in the bobbin for cleaning. I'm sure that most of this is
> operator error but it is very frustrating as I can't seem to get any "clean,
> continuous" results.
>
> Terri
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:57 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
> The thread frays that you are having, does the thread fray around the thread
> feed roller cover or does it fray down by the needle area?
> Have you broken many needles in the time frame you've had the machine?
> Ed
>
> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> E.M. Broidery
> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> New Orleans, La. 70056
> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri Hoover
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:35 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
>
> Ed,
>
> Never had metallic thread on the machine. I've had my machine since late
> May 2004 and have not done a lot of sewing. In fact just did the 4 mil
> maintenance. (I've changed rollers as needed before this.) The material
> thickness is set anywhere from 4 to 12 depending on garments. (I've only
> sewn 3 caps.) It seems as of late that have been having a lot of fraying
> thread breaks. To the point that I'm afraid to sew on anything that "real".
> I'm thinking that the thread may be getting caught on this groove.
> Typically on these fraying thread breaks, the thread is NOT around the
> roller or bundled up under the cover. I've been avoid all 7 needles that
> have the cut in the cover.
> The cut is below the little dip/groove in the cover.
>
> Terri
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:23 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
> Are you using metallic thread??? We've been running for three years and
> haven't seen grooves in the black plastic cover yet. Could you have gotten
> a bad batch? What is the average Material Thickness setting that you run.
> Do you ever change this setting as you sew different garments?
> If the groove in the cover isn't causing damage to the thread, I
> don't see
> were it would be a problem. The grooves in the thread feed roller are an
> issue because you need consistent pressure from the red roller above. The
> black cover is just that, a cover. The cover does have a "dovetail" thread
> guide notch, but that is up and above the thread feed roller window. Is
> that the groove you're talking about?
> Ed
>
> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> E.M. Broidery
> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> New Orleans, La. 70056
> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri Hoover
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:52 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
>
> Along this same line, has anyone had any problems with black cover of the
> roller getting a cut in it. Some of mine have. Granted my experience at
> correctly embroidering is small, but have not had any bird nests or other
> thing that have caused problems to the actual rollers. My rollers in fact
> look really good compared to the picture in the Amaya book. The have only
> had 1 or 2 nicks. So what would cause the "cut" in the black cover. I can
> see it and drag a nail across it.
>
> Terri
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Body Cover
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:45 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
> The exasperation is real
> I haven't experienced it to your level though
> I try to hold the tip way up and hook the lip of the back
> in first, try and hold it as level (left to right) as possible
> it does want to touch the red roller also. I have also
> had good luck with holding it on both sides, better leverage
> and my fingers are too big to get too close.
> let it ride in on the top of the replaced feed roller
> then lift it slightly. also you may try to get a stool and a flashlight
> and look at it from above the red roller and guide it in that
> way, I do know unless it's right it won't snap down right
> I wish I had a good trick to share with you.
>
>
> as far as the upper adjustment you'll be happy to know
> that all you can do is raise and lower the fabric thickness
> if it is acting erratic I'll bet you have grooves and gunk on the rollers
> and sad to say I'll bet a lot of them are bad, which means lots
> of practice changing out rollers.
> One tip I can give that we learned the hard way.
> to inspect the roller, you need to actually pull it out.
> We kept having problems on one needle and when I looked
> I never saw a groove but after 2 or 3 looks I finally pulled it out
> and found a nasty gash on the backside.
> I guess I got unlucky and looked at the good spot three times in a row!
> the point is, now if I even think of thread feed problems I swap rollers
> and see if the problem disappears. then I throw the old ones in a box
> as backups in case I need another and have no new ones left.
> I can clean an old one with alcohol or eraser as described in this list
> and make due as long as there no wear grooves or cuts.
> and don't think it has to birdnest or go really wrong to make a cut or
> groove,
> it is a normal wear and tear thing, it is not an "IF" it is a "WHEN"
> so buy extras next time you order supplies and be ready
>
> Ron Vinyard
> Body Cover / Magic Stitches
> 1-888-435-0176
>
> 420 SW H street
> Grants Pass, OR 97526
>
> info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.bodycoverdesign.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <embroideryexpress@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:17 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
>
>>I can now get the thread feed rollers in and out easily enough.
>> My frustration is replacing the black cover...I have spent 45 minutes plus
> several times and then I walk away and leave that
>> needle OUT OF THE LOOP for several days...anyone have any tips for
> replacing that easily. I wrestled it last night...again this
>> morning and my nerves are shot I plan to stop in and see the salesman at
> the NNEP conference and have him demonstrate this for
>> me.....
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>> I have a helper that says I need to tighten the upper tension...I explain
> that I can't (not too easily as she is Vietnamese and
>> our communications are VERY LIMITED....) Does there come a time that some
> adjustment is necessary.
>>
>> I suspect there are grooves in my thread feed rollers but am reluctant to
> check based on problems described above....
>>
>> Anyone have expereince with other brand machines....
>> easier? sewing quality the same or better?
>>
>> My two year warranty is about to expire and I need to decide what to
> do....also considering adding a machine....another AMAYA or 2
>> or 4 head ? DECISIONS...DECISIONS!!!!!
>>
>> Shannon
>> Embroidery Express
>> Olney MD
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