[amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
- From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:42:56 -0500
Rod,
Thanks - I'll get my husband right on it!
Terri
-----Original Message-----
From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rod or Sharon
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:04 PM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
To answer for Herb.....yes, this procedure can be done by anyone as long as
the instructions are followed carefully on Hook Timing procedures.
Electronics, other than operating the computer, really plays no part in
setting the hook timing, it is almost all mechanical in nature.
Rod
Embroidery Cottage
Rod & Sharon Springer
Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
Boise, ID 83713
208-938-3038
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:18 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> Hi Herb,
>
> Can an inexperienced person who has electronic experience do the hook
> timing?
>
> Terri
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of HK Acree
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:48 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
> Gonna throw my thoughts in here as I am in the process of retiming the
> hook.
>
> Was having some thread break issues that I could not trace to the usual.
> (Rollers, needles, mat thickness, bobbins). Found my hook timing retarded
> .7
>
> of a degree. Was having fraying type thread issues. We shall see what
> happens. My plastic covers have small marks in them as well, but have had
> for some time. I don't think they are an issue.
>
> Herb
> Royal Embroidery
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:12 PM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
>
>> No needle breaks. Thread frays down by the needle. Have noticed a few
>> times of not getting a good trim, thread expands, sews another area, then
>> frays. Checked and double checked that needles are in correctly. As far
>> as
>> we can tell the needles are not rotated too far. Have altered numerous
>> times to see if any improvement. Looked at the bobbin and bobbin area,
>> and
>> as far as we can tell everything is ok. Never inserted anything other
>> than
>> a business card in the bobbin for cleaning. I'm sure that most of this
>> is
>> operator error but it is very frustrating as I can't seem to get any
>> "clean,
>> continuous" results.
>>
>> Terri
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:57 PM
>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>>
>> The thread frays that you are having, does the thread fray around the
>> thread
>> feed roller cover or does it fray down by the needle area?
>> Have you broken many needles in the time frame you've had the machine?
>> Ed
>>
>> Ed & Maralien Orantes
>> E.M. Broidery
>> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
>> New Orleans, La. 70056
>> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri Hoover
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:35 PM
>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>>
>>
>> Ed,
>>
>> Never had metallic thread on the machine. I've had my machine since late
>> May 2004 and have not done a lot of sewing. In fact just did the 4 mil
>> maintenance. (I've changed rollers as needed before this.) The material
>> thickness is set anywhere from 4 to 12 depending on garments. (I've only
>> sewn 3 caps.) It seems as of late that have been having a lot of fraying
>> thread breaks. To the point that I'm afraid to sew on anything that
>> "real".
>> I'm thinking that the thread may be getting caught on this groove.
>> Typically on these fraying thread breaks, the thread is NOT around the
>> roller or bundled up under the cover. I've been avoid all 7 needles that
>> have the cut in the cover.
>> The cut is below the little dip/groove in the cover.
>>
>> Terri
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:23 PM
>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>>
>> Are you using metallic thread??? We've been running for three years and
>> haven't seen grooves in the black plastic cover yet. Could you have
>> gotten
>> a bad batch? What is the average Material Thickness setting that you
>> run.
>> Do you ever change this setting as you sew different garments?
>> If the groove in the cover isn't causing damage to the thread, I
>> don't see
>> were it would be a problem. The grooves in the thread feed roller are an
>> issue because you need consistent pressure from the red roller above.
>> The
>> black cover is just that, a cover. The cover does have a "dovetail"
>> thread
>> guide notch, but that is up and above the thread feed roller window. Is
>> that the groove you're talking about?
>> Ed
>>
>> Ed & Maralien Orantes
>> E.M. Broidery
>> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
>> New Orleans, La. 70056
>> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri Hoover
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:52 PM
>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>>
>>
>> Along this same line, has anyone had any problems with black cover of the
>> roller getting a cut in it. Some of mine have. Granted my experience at
>> correctly embroidering is small, but have not had any bird nests or other
>> thing that have caused problems to the actual rollers. My rollers in
>> fact
>> look really good compared to the picture in the Amaya book. The have
>> only
>> had 1 or 2 nicks. So what would cause the "cut" in the black cover. I
>> can
>> see it and drag a nail across it.
>>
>> Terri
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Body Cover
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:45 PM
>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>>
>> The exasperation is real
>> I haven't experienced it to your level though
>> I try to hold the tip way up and hook the lip of the back
>> in first, try and hold it as level (left to right) as possible
>> it does want to touch the red roller also. I have also
>> had good luck with holding it on both sides, better leverage
>> and my fingers are too big to get too close.
>> let it ride in on the top of the replaced feed roller
>> then lift it slightly. also you may try to get a stool and a flashlight
>> and look at it from above the red roller and guide it in that
>> way, I do know unless it's right it won't snap down right
>> I wish I had a good trick to share with you.
>>
>>
>> as far as the upper adjustment you'll be happy to know
>> that all you can do is raise and lower the fabric thickness
>> if it is acting erratic I'll bet you have grooves and gunk on the rollers
>> and sad to say I'll bet a lot of them are bad, which means lots
>> of practice changing out rollers.
>> One tip I can give that we learned the hard way.
>> to inspect the roller, you need to actually pull it out.
>> We kept having problems on one needle and when I looked
>> I never saw a groove but after 2 or 3 looks I finally pulled it out
>> and found a nasty gash on the backside.
>> I guess I got unlucky and looked at the good spot three times in a row!
>> the point is, now if I even think of thread feed problems I swap rollers
>> and see if the problem disappears. then I throw the old ones in a box
>> as backups in case I need another and have no new ones left.
>> I can clean an old one with alcohol or eraser as described in this list
>> and make due as long as there no wear grooves or cuts.
>> and don't think it has to birdnest or go really wrong to make a cut or
>> groove,
>> it is a normal wear and tear thing, it is not an "IF" it is a "WHEN"
>> so buy extras next time you order supplies and be ready
>>
>> Ron Vinyard
>> Body Cover / Magic Stitches
>> 1-888-435-0176
>>
>> 420 SW H street
>> Grants Pass, OR 97526
>>
>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> www.bodycoverdesign.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <embroideryexpress@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:17 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>>
>>
>>>I can now get the thread feed rollers in and out easily enough.
>>> My frustration is replacing the black cover...I have spent 45 minutes
>>> plus
>> several times and then I walk away and leave that
>>> needle OUT OF THE LOOP for several days...anyone have any tips for
>> replacing that easily. I wrestled it last night...again this
>>> morning and my nerves are shot I plan to stop in and see the salesman
>>> at
>> the NNEP conference and have him demonstrate this for
>>> me.....
>>>
>>> I have a helper that says I need to tighten the upper tension...I
>>> explain
>> that I can't (not too easily as she is Vietnamese and
>>> our communications are VERY LIMITED....) Does there come a time that
>>> some
>> adjustment is necessary.
>>>
>>> I suspect there are grooves in my thread feed rollers but am reluctant
>>> to
>> check based on problems described above....
>>>
>>> Anyone have expereince with other brand machines....
>>> easier? sewing quality the same or better?
>>>
>>> My two year warranty is about to expire and I need to decide what to
>> do....also considering adding a machine....another AMAYA or 2
>>> or 4 head ? DECISIONS...DECISIONS!!!!!
>>>
>>> Shannon
>>> Embroidery Express
>>> Olney MD
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