Rayon is not colorfast, therefore, if washed often or in bleach, it will fade or bleach out. It is also not as strong as Poly but has a higher sheen. I'd not use it on children's wear. We use Poly for most everything but have no problems with Rayon when we use it. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Chamberlin" <impressivethreads@xxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: R&A thread long reply..... >I do not want to beat a dead horse, but being new to this business I want > the very best for my customers. I was lead to believe Rayon thread was not > as strong as Poly and would fade or bleach out with washings. Is this not > the case. My business is in AZ so lots of hats and shirts worn in the sun > with lots of sweat in 115 degree heat. Would Rayon threads live up to > those > types of condition and last as long as Poly? > > Cindy Chamberlin > Impressive Threads > Phoenix AZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ernest Aguilar > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:31 PM > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [amayausers] Re: R&A thread long reply..... > > Well, I don't know how practical in your production but in our > production....... > > I have 4 12 heads, 1 18 head, 8 Melco Single heads, and 4 Amaya XT's and > we > run both Rayon and Poly depending on the job. > > We use Rayon about 95% of the time, it's a matter of quality embroidery, > and > our customers expect it. > > If you want quality... You must use Rayon, if you want production and > don't > care too much about longevity of machines then use Poly. > > And our XT's run very well at high speed on Robison Anton Rayon. > > Ernest Aguilar CEO > Lancaster Uniform Cap Co., Inc. > lovecars.com Embroidery > NOTE NEW ADDRESS > 5522 Olive St. > Montclair, CA 91763 > 909-949-7070 > 909-949-4270 FAX > -----Original Message----- > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kesavan > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 4:24 PM > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [amayausers] Re: R&A thread long reply..... > > Ernie, > > I switched to Poly 2 years ago. Its not practical to try and run both > rayon > an poly in production. > > The amaya cant run ryaon anyway. Too may thread brakes at high speed. > > Anand > > Anand, you guys in Australia can get the best Rayon in the world from > Japan > and Southeast Asia, we in the US cannot. They cannot be imported in. > > I had a distributor here in Los Angeles that was bringing thread in from > Japan and from Malaysia and they got slammed by Customs, I used their > thread > exclusively for many years. > > This is the rule of thumb for thread use Rayon vs. Polyester > > Rayon is used for fine embroidery and for more shine on regular garments. > > Poly is used for mostly items that will be commercially laundered. > > Poly is very hard on machines, it will cut up most thread guides 10 times > faster than cotton and probably 50 times faster than rayon. But it is more > forgiving to badly timed machines and bad designs that tend to make the > machine break thread a lot. It also requires heavier tensions that will > pucker the embroidery after a while. > > Rayon is very delicate specially black and white, machine must be in top > condition and design must be well digitized. It's not very forgiving to > outdoor use, to heavy laundering. But will look best specially on fills. > > This is from my own personally experience. > > I've heard other reason pro and con for both threads, but we've been doing > automated machine embroidery for 24 years, and for 30 years before that > with > manual Zig Zag embroidery machines. And we repair our won machines except > for the new Amaya XT's that we just got. > > > > > Ernest Aguilar CEO > Lancaster Uniform Cap Co., Inc. > lovecars.com Embroidery > NOTE NEW ADDRESS > 5522 Olive St. > Montclair, CA 91763 > 909-949-7070 > 909-949-4270 FAX > -----Original Message----- > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kesavan > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:30 PM > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [amayausers] Re: R&A thread > > Thanks every one. 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