[amayausers] Re: R&A thread long reply.....

  • From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:10:05 -0600

Rayon is not colorfast, therefore, if washed often or in bleach, it will 
fade or bleach out.  It is also not as strong as Poly but has a higher 
sheen.  I'd not use it on children's wear.  We use Poly for most everything 
but have no problems with Rayon when we use it.
Sharon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Chamberlin" <impressivethreads@xxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:55 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: R&A thread long reply.....


>I do not want to beat a dead horse, but being new to this business I want
> the very best for my customers. I was lead to believe Rayon thread was not
> as strong as Poly and would fade or bleach out with washings. Is this not
> the case. My business is in AZ so lots of hats and shirts worn in the sun
> with lots of sweat in 115 degree heat. Would Rayon threads live up to 
> those
> types of condition and last as long as Poly?
>
> Cindy Chamberlin
> Impressive Threads
> Phoenix AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ernest Aguilar
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:31 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: R&A thread long reply.....
>
> Well, I don't know how practical in your production but in our
> production.......
>
> I have 4 12 heads, 1 18 head, 8 Melco Single heads, and 4 Amaya XT's and 
> we
> run both Rayon and Poly depending on the job.
>
> We use Rayon about 95% of the time, it's a matter of quality embroidery, 
> and
> our customers expect it.
>
> If you want quality... You must use Rayon, if you want production and 
> don't
> care too much about longevity of machines then use Poly.
>
> And our XT's run very well at high speed on Robison Anton Rayon.
>
> Ernest Aguilar CEO
> Lancaster Uniform Cap Co., Inc.
> lovecars.com Embroidery
> NOTE NEW ADDRESS
> 5522 Olive St.
> Montclair, CA 91763
> 909-949-7070
> 909-949-4270 FAX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kesavan
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 4:24 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: R&A thread long reply.....
>
> Ernie,
>
> I switched to Poly 2 years ago. Its not practical to try and run both 
> rayon
> an poly in production.
>
> The amaya cant run ryaon anyway. Too may thread brakes at high speed.
>
> Anand
>
> Anand, you guys in Australia can get the best Rayon in the world from 
> Japan
> and Southeast Asia, we in the US cannot. They cannot be imported in.
>
> I had a distributor here in Los Angeles that was bringing thread in from
> Japan and from Malaysia and they got slammed by Customs, I used their 
> thread
> exclusively for many years.
>
> This is the rule of thumb for thread use Rayon vs. Polyester
>
> Rayon is used for fine embroidery and for more shine on regular garments.
>
> Poly is used for mostly items that will be commercially laundered.
>
> Poly is very hard on machines, it will cut up most thread guides 10 times
> faster than cotton and probably 50 times faster than rayon. But it is more
> forgiving to badly timed machines and bad designs that tend to make the
> machine break thread a lot. It also requires heavier tensions that  will
> pucker the embroidery after a while.
>
> Rayon is very delicate specially black and white, machine must be in top
> condition and design must be well digitized. It's not very forgiving to
> outdoor use, to heavy laundering. But will look best specially on fills.
>
> This is from my own personally experience.
>
> I've heard other reason pro and con for both threads, but we've been doing
> automated machine embroidery for 24 years, and for 30 years before that 
> with
> manual Zig Zag embroidery machines. And we repair our won machines except
> for the new Amaya XT's that we just got.
>
>
>
>
> Ernest Aguilar CEO
> Lancaster Uniform Cap Co., Inc.
> lovecars.com Embroidery
> NOTE NEW ADDRESS
> 5522 Olive St.
> Montclair, CA 91763
> 909-949-7070
> 909-949-4270 FAX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kesavan
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:30 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: R&A thread
>
> Thanks every one. Unfortunately the Australian distributor stocks only
> rayon.
>
>
> Anand
>
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