I think all small business owners struggle with pricing (articles everywhere). What I did was figure direct costs (thread, backing, etc.), indirect costs (electricity, etc.--not much else as I work from home) and what I want to make per hour. My hourly rate needs to be no less than $30. I have taken the standard garment markup that SanMar has built in to their catalog. I charge $10 per thousand for digitizing and $1.00 per thousand for stitchouts with a $5.00 minimum. I have discounted both garments and embroidery. For the garments I have taken the catalog piece price subtract the wholesale cost (figuring my profit) and calculate discounts keeping at least that same profit margin. I use the same dozen and case pricing categories. For embroidery I start discounting at 72 pieces and again at 144. I figure it takes less time to keep stitching out the same garment over and over and can pass that savings on to my customer. (I have done a 260 shirt order on my singlehead Amaya in 4 10-hour days.) For keyboard lettering I charge $10 for a 10-character line; $5 for personalization (first name only). Of course sometimes I change pricing due to circumstances. I'm also heat pressing transfers so I'm using my same $30 hourly rate to calculate that. I usually make more than $30 per hour, sometimes as much as $60-$100 but that makes up for when I don't have any jobs. I do charge more for metallic thread or other specialty threads. I have rush charges (not quite as standardized yet). It does help to have a formula in place so you are consistent--valuable if you give a quote and later they come back and the new quote is in the same ballpark (I realize the quote can change but it probably shouldn't be so drastic that the customer is feeling gouged or you're not shorting yourself). Enough of my 2 Cents. I am interested in others' pricing. Dorothy Compton Bee Embroidered www.BeeEmbroidered.com (916) 635-7467 Rancho Cordova, CA In a message dated 8/17/2004 8:37:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > More starter questions. > > One of the most difficult things about this business (besides mastering the > Amaya) is figuring out what to charge customers. I would love some guidance > from those of you that have been doing this for a while. > > Do you follow any sort of formula... Such as shirt cost x markup + stitch > count/labor cost = final price ? Or do you sort of wing it... Double > the cost of shirt and add "X" for the sew out of the design and if that > sounds too low, you add to it? =) Do you charge more for embroidering on > certain items? Less for others? >