There are some on this board who don't use any hooping aides but the Hoopmaster was my first purchase after my machine. It is so easy to use and makes placement consistent. One thing that sold me was its ability to keep the hoop square with the shirt. Definitely worth the money. I would, however, try to go to a trade show and get a show discount. My 2 cents. Dorothy Compton Bee Embroidered _www.BeeEmbroidered.com_ (http://www.beeembroidered.com/) (916) 635-7467 Rancho Cordova, CA In a message dated 11/11/2006 1:56:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, wag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Can anyone speak of advantages of one hoping device over another? Bill William A. Griffin Roanoke Bible College Elizabeth City, N. C 27909 252.334.2001 252.335.2321 -home _www.roanokebible.edu_ (http://www.roanokebible.edu) =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================