Hi Ron, How would I do it on the back if they want "Boston Scientific" stacked on the back, not on one line and arched? Thanks Debbie From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Body Cover Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:01 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers.com] Nike hat backs hooping ideas Hey Debbie For hat backs I thought I'd send this out for you or anyone interested, Couldn't post it to the website since I don't see a way to add attachments. When we do hat backs, especially lettering only, we built a jig out of plywood that hangs off the end of the table and is held by a "C" clamp. it is about the size of a 15cm hoop and we use it for hat backs. I attached photos that I just took to explain. A- shows the hooping board as you can see it's far from perfect and round, but it lets the hat fall down and out of the way, B- We take the hoop ring and use a couple of push pins to butt it up to. so that the placement is close every time. C- undo the buckle form the hat or whatever closure you have, lay it over the hoop ring and then you can make a mark with a sharpie to keep the hat back in roughly the same spot each time. you'll also notice we DON'T use backing, waste of time and money for us on simple hat backs (Just my opinion) saves a lot of time on cleanup. D- place the top hoop over the top and push the end without hat in first. Do your best to rotate the hoop wings to be at a 90 degree angle with the back seam if not perfect it's ok. Make sure that the hoop isn't super tight, just snug! When I get the hat on the machine I reach underneath and grab the hoop ring and slightly twist it until the seam is as close to 90 degrees with the thread grabber blade. If the seam isn't straight and it curves a little it's OK just make sure that the part closest to the bottom is at the 90 degree angle since that's where you'll be sewing. Always trace and move the hoop to the left or right until the laser dot starts on the seam, so that the design centers and then even thought the trace line may go below the hat bottom make sure you know how far it should rise from the top of the hat back opening. It takes a few to get it down but soon you can be racing through hats. at only 3500 stitches you can hardly hoop fast enough for two machines. Always start with 2 hats hooped, when the first machine is halfway done sewing stat the second and immediately get the next hat hooped. when your first is done pop it off and set it aside, then out on the new one and set it and start it. The important part is to keep an eye on bobbins and keep the machines running as often as possible, Cleanup comes when your ready for the next hat. pop it out of the hoop and hoop the next one, cleanup at the end of the day or at home later if needed. or take the time to have the machine trim where it needs to and when they are done sewing put them in the box for delivery, the extra minute or two gives you time to be ready with the next hat. You'll be surprised at how quickly you can knock out hat backs, it will keep you hopping. If anyone's interested I can send a photo of our hat cleaning jig so you can use two hands to clean hats one for tweezers and one for scissors. Sincerely, Ron Vinyard Body Cover Design 420 SW H Street Grants Pass, OR 97526-2532 541-471-1504 1-888-435-0176 Fax 541-471-0427 www.bodycoverdesign.com