Roland, I forgot to mention the logo and name is to go above the front pocket, so I doubt if splitting the bottom would work, or would it? And again, how do you get the arms of the little 5.9mm hoop attached to the machine if they are sandwiched between the two layers of fabric? If I decide to try and hoop both layers, would I use an 8 or 9 MT? Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: image embriodery To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:25 PM Subject: [amayausers] Monogram proportions? What is the correct proportions for a three letter monogam? LuAnn @ Image Embroidery Because Your "Image" Matters