This message was posted by gcannon on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1205.html Okay- went for cap training and got a formula for figuring how tall a design can be on a cap. The formula is to take the front part of the caps height before it starts to curve and subtract 1.14" from that height- say the height of the hat is 3" before it starts to curve toward the top, subtract 1.14 from 3, and this leaves 1.86" of embroderable area, with a little wiggle room. I accepted this formula, and have done well with it, however my boss is now back here into hoop limits, and removing brackets from the cap frames, and all sorts of things in order to try and get more top to bottom stitch area out of the Amayas. I have tried, to the best of my ability, to explain to him about the "lip" on the tubular arm, and the way the driver shaft can get in the way- to no avail- yet. Where does this "magical" 1.14" come from? I know it has something to do with the limits of the cap frame. Somebody, anybody- please explain this to me. I am working with a prodigy here- and he e xpect a lot! =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================