This message was posted by KERRMINATOR on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1204.html#000002 If I'm understanding you correctly, the letters are a tatami fill stitched over a large tatami fill area. I'd try to get the fill of the letters to be stitching in one direction and make sure you have a fill underlay under them. Be sure that the edge of the underlay is about .5 points away from the edge of the letters. Then, make the fill of the background stitch in the opposite direction as the letters. See if that works... =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================