I use the All-In-One hooper and find it incredibly helpful for large orders - to maintain consistency in placement. Plus, for re-orders, I just look at my chart and can place the embroidery in the exact same spot. Also very handy for jackets and jacket backs - even varsity coats - again for consistency. I only use EBP on single denim's or polo's. And I use the floor for carhardt's :-) with my double height hoops. I didn't like the looks of the HoopMaster system due to have to purchase a different "jig" for each size hoop. I find the al-in-one very flexible. I saw someone who has theirs in a closet, and if I was looking for another I would make him an offer :-) Kelly -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of E. Orantes Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:05 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: More needle quesions Yeah, another investment we thought we were going to need when we started. Paid over $800 for our HoopMaster system and really don't use it that much. It's a great idea and works great in certain areas. We use the smaller hooping device sometimes and never use the large shirt device. I'd like to know how many of you out there actually use a hooping device or just go with eye ball placement? Ed Ed & Maralien Orantes E.M. Broidery 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200 Terrytown, La. 70131 504-EMBROID (504-362-7643) or 504-433-0099 office 504-433-0100 fax