This message was posted by Marcelle on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1573.html#000004 The plastic sided prewound from MetroEmb also work well for me. I can't tell any difference between them and NEB. They are usually less than half the price of NEB. I don't ever use the cardboard anymore because of the extra lint they cause. I have also had several of them that were bad and had to throw them away. What kind of industrial bobbin winder do you have? I often would like to use the same color thread in the bobbin for lace so it would be so nice to have one. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================