[access-uk] Re: window-eyes beta
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:52:00 +0100
Hi Graham,
All of that harping on is still no excuse for you not reading the readme
file. I would have thought that you would realise the importance of this,
especially in beta software.
All the best
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Graham Page
Sent: 19 October 2006 08:43
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: window-eyes beta
read the first few lines of that but it seemed to be about the features of
the new version so I thought I'd install it first and read it later. the
need for version 5.5 should be explained either on the beter 6.0 Beta page
or right at the top of the readme file which actually is a whole speel about
congratulations about making a purchase you haven't actually made.
Cheers
Graham
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil <mailto:neiljarvis@xxxxxxxxxx> Jarvis
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:16 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: window-eyes beta
Then again, you could have just read the readme file or the link to the same
text on the website before the download link, as you're strongly advised to
do and you'd have learned early on about the need to have 5.5, either full
or demo version, installed before attempting to install this Beta.
More haste, less speed!
----- Original Message -----
From: Graham <mailto:gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Page
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: [access-uk] window-eyes beta
Hi all.
Don't want to get into an argument about different screenreaders here, but I
have been following the way Window-eyes has been released and either I am
doing something truely silly or window-eyes seems to have mist a trick or 2
and I wondered if other window-eyes users could help.
Firstly, what GW Micro scores on technical support, it loses on marketing
and hype. I know they have to make a big noise or have done in the past to
sell their products, particularly Window-eyes but in this version there are
enough selling points including a very interesting method of providing high
quality support for Microsoft Office Calendar which I believe uses Microsoft
Active X to bring up useful information in a calendar dialog box. There is
also enhanced access for Excel and a few extra things in word. They
produced a few rather patronising radio show-like programs, one a day,
running up to the release. it's more like marketing a beatles album in the
1960s than selling a modern screenreader that people normally want for
business, work or home computer access and this seems strange but I suppose
GW Micro must know their audience.
Anyway, no where in all this lot does it say I need Window-eyes version 5
installed, but when I tried to download the program I was asked for a user
name and password by my download manager but the program downloaded anyway.
This may be a fault of Download express, my download manager. The download
was only 6 MB in length and when I ran it it said that version 5.5 was not
installed so I went and downloaded version 5.5 and all went quite well with
the installation.
The info says there is a JAWS keyboard layout you can use if you are not
familiar with window-eyes keys. I thought this was available in the
window-eyes menu under Keyboard but couldn't find it. Also, with
Window-eyes installed, I couldn't shut down the PC properly. the process
just stopped mid way through so I uninstalled window-eyes and all worked
again.
what I am really saying here is there is far too much hype and not enough
real information to allow people to make a propper evaluation of the Beta
version. GW have probably even outstripped Freedom Scientific this time for
marketing rubbish and hot air and that takes some doing!
Regards
Graham
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