Thanks for the update Francis. With no electronic program guide it would look as if you could not use any of the plus facilities int hat case. That would have been its main attraction for myself, as finding a accessible digital tv recording device is not looking very promising as yet. Cheers, Mark Threadgold Of all the things I have ever lost, The one I miss most is my mind... _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Francis Holman Sent: 15 April 2010 15:50 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] bad news re the sky talker Hi I spoke with the disability department of sky this morning. Apparently the sky talker is not ready to launch yet, and even when it does there will not be an EPG. According to the person whom I spoke with it will only tell what the next programme coming up is. Personally that seems a waste of time and research to me. Very disappointing. Best Fran.