Thanks for posting this Jonathan. Looking at the information on the site, I don't immediately see reference to accessibility of electronic interfaces. Is this something that UKAAF has form in? And its board members? It looks to me as if the main bulk of experience is in transcribing and creating Braille and large print. It refers to print impaired people and providing accesible information, making me think the main skill and knowledgebase in the organisation is about creating accessible documents primarily. Do you have any further detail around their involvement in digital information and accessibility of digital hardware? Thanks ...Damon -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: 16 April 2010 10:30 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: bad news re the sky talker To answer Damon's point about a collective voice, there exists just such as thing, of which I am a full member. It's called the UKAAF, UK Association for Accessible Formats http://www.ukaaf.org/ It's free to become a member of the User Advisory Group, and the only requirement is that you are a user of one or more accessible formats. In other words, they need and want your input. Their contact details are: Tel: 0845 60 85223 Email: enquiries@xxxxxxxxx Registered charity number: 1126966 The joining page is at http://www.ukaaf.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=119&Itemid=74 I'll paste below the main points of it's motive: "Setting standards and promoting best practice for quality accessible information based on user needs Enabling businesses and organisations to deliver a quality service to meet the needs of people with print impairments" Might be worth getting in touch with them. Those of you from the list working with me on my project know that, sadly, certain groups claiming to be acting in VI users interest are really nothing more than mouthpieces for commercial enterprises (not talking about RNIB, by the way!). I've not seen any evidence of this from UKAAF, so well worth trying. Damon Rose wrote: > I think a collective voice would help though I'm not suggesting a big > movement or commitment, it's so much easier to do this kind of thing > on the internet. I'm not even talking about setting up an organisation > or anything like that. -- Providing support to Britain's 500 talking newspaper services http://www.talking-newspapers.co.uk/ ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq