[access-uk] Re: WINDOWS MESSENGER
- From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 22:36:31 +0100
i'm assuming it's still the case that only jfw5 and above will work properly
with msn 6.2? i'm only using jfw4.2 and it's next to useless with msn 6.2.
and of course msn5 is no longer available so i'm stuck! smile.
kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list
email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Wilson" <jwjw@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Access-UK" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:02 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: WINDOWS MESSENGER
> Hello Carol,
>
> As far as I know, the up-to-date version of Windows Messenger is
> Version 5. However, MSN Messenger 6.2 may be found to be better
> supported by scripts. As far as the graphic on the various
> Microsoft download sites for Messenger are concerned, they now
> usually supply an option to get the graphic spoken out to you by
> your computer's default audio player. You then type the
> figures/letters you herd into an editfield and they are then
> automatically copied into the correct place on the form with the
> graphic. The below extract, which was done to assist in
> downloading MSN 6.2, from my newly rewritten Internet 2
> tutorial should help.
>
> 8.2.2. Signing on to the .Net Passport Service
>
> You have to register with the Microsoft .Net Passport service
> before you can use MSN Messenger. This is because MSN Messenger
> has to sign on to this Passport site and use its information and
> connectivity network before it can work. It is possible to
> register/sign on with the Net Passport just before you download
> the MSN program or you can download it first and then sign on
> with Net Passport later. However, if you already have signed on
> with Net Passport for some other reason or have set up an
> Hotmail
> account for yourself, then you are already signed on and do not
> have to do this again, as you can use your same username,
> password, etc.
>
> To sign on with Passport first and then get the download
> immediately:
>
> 1. Surf to either:
>
> www.msn.co.uk
> (for UK residents)
>
> or
>
> www.msn.com
> (for Us residents)
>
> 2. you should move well down the home page, which has over 180
> links, to the "MSN Messenger 6.2" link and press ENTER or
> SPACEBAR. You will get there quicker if you use your
> screenreader's find feature or page down twice and then start to
> ARROW down from there.
>
> 3. On the next page you should TAB around 13 times to a
> "Download" link and press ENTER.
>
> 4. On the next page, if you already have an Hotmail account or
> a MSN.com e-mail address, you are already registered and do not
> need to do it again. For new users you should ARROW down to the
> second "Go" button where it says "Register your own E-mail
> Address" just below it and press ENTER on this "Go" button. A
> standard secure server message will come up and you just press
> ENTER on the "OK" button.
>
> 5. Now the registration page with editfields to complete loads
> in. In normal live mode you should ARROW down this page to get
> an idea of what personal details you have to supply, because not
> all of the editfield labels are likely to be spoken by your
> screenreader after you go into forms/editing mode. Then:
>
> A. TAB to the first editfield and go into forms mode and type in
> here your e-mail address, e.g. john-willaims27@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Depending on the screenreader you are using and its version, you
> go into forms/editing mode by pressing the ENTER key (with JAWS
> and Window-Eyes) or by pressing SPACEBAR (with HAL 4 and 5) or
> by pressing CAPSLOCK ENTER (with HAL 6.03 and later).
>
> B. TAB once to the password field and make a password up you
> will
> be able to remember of at least six characters.
>
> C. TAB once again and retype this same password in here to
> confirm.
>
> D. Another press of TAB takes you to a combobox where you can
> ARROW down a list of days to select your day of birth, so ARROW
> down to this.
>
> E. TAB again and ARROW down the next list to your month of
> birth.
>
> F. TAB once again to another editfield which is where you type
> in your year of birth in full, e.g. 1977.
>
> G. When you TAB again, this is where things can get a little
> difficult. You are required to see and type into an editfield a
> number of digits and letters but these letters are deliberately
> made blurred on screen. If you cannot see them, there is an
> alternative way to deal with this by getting them spoken out to
> you through your computer speakers. You press ENTER on a link
> which invites you to do this if you cannot see the digits and
> figures, so do this. Next:
>
> i. Now another dialogue or window opens up and in here you TAB
> to "Listen to the Characters in the Audio file" and press ENTER
> on this. In Windows 98 this audio file would be opened and
> spoken
> to you straightaway but in Windows XP you will encounter another
> dialogue box first to TAB to "Open" and press enter on this
> first.
>
> ii. What happens now is that your default audio player, such as
> Windows Media Player or Winamp, will open and you will hear the
> letters and numbers spoken but not in a very clear voice. If you
> mis-hear this and type it in wrongly, you will be given another
> chance but with a different set of numbers and figures which,
> hopefully, will be easier to decipher than the last ones! You
> may
> be advised to have a tape recorder to hand to record this spoken
> string of letters and numbers.
>
> iii. You should now close your computer's audio player with ALT
> F4 to return to the dialogue box you were just in and then TAB
> once to an editfield where you have to type these spoken figures
> and letters in.
>
> iv. Then TAB to "Continue" and press ENTER to leave this pop-up
> window and return to your first dialogue box.
>
> H. The text you typed in above will now have automatically been
> inserted into the appropriate editfield in this first dialogue
> and you should now TAB to a field just above the "I Agree"
> button
> and in here you again type your e-mail address in for
> confirmation.
>
> I. Lastly, TAB to and press ENTER on the "I Agree" button.
>
> 6. The form completion is now over and MSN Messenger 6.2 should
> now automatically be downloading to your PC for you and it may
> also automatically open and install itself. If it does not start
> to download automatically, see the next sub-section for how to
> start the download.
>
> 7. Shortly after registration and download, you will get a
> confirmation message on screen if all is OK. You will before
> long
> also receive an e-mail from Microsoft confirming your
> registration and your submitted details and providing some
> advice
> and guidance on using the Net Passport service in future if you
> want to. You will be invited to use a URL in this message to go
> online and confirm your Net Passport registration, where you
> just
> complete your registration details again and then receive a
> successful message. However, it is not essential to reply to
> this
> e-mail to remain registered and be able to use MSN Messenger.
>
> Note 1: There is an alternative way of approaching this
> registration and download sequence. If you like, you can, in
> step
> 4 above, TAB to the third "Go" button, press ENTER and download
> MSN Messenger without signing on to the Net Passport at this
> stage but, after installing it, you will not be able to use it
> without later signing on to the Passport after installing it.
> You
> could sign on to the Net Passport later as outlined above or you
> could go to the:
>
> www.passport.com
>
> site and sign on there instead, it all has the same effect. You
> can, in fact, sign on with .Net Passport in many ways and on
> many different sites.
>
> Author of From The Keyboard Tutorials
> for Visually Impaired Computer Users
> To view my tutorials, please visit my Website at:
> Website: http://web.onetel.com/~fromthekeyboard
> Tel: 0113 2575957
> E-mail: jwjw@xxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 2:45 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] WINDOWS MESSENGER
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> It's been some while now since I used Windows Messenger and I
> see I'm
> still on Version 4. Does anyone know the latest good version
> that works
> well with JAWS? In addition, when I sign up with a new address
> and
> password, can I still make my own choice and avoid Hotmail? How
> do I
> get around that number that's given during sign up? Finally, do
> I need
> to uninstall Version 4 before installing a new version?
>
> Thanks for any help you can give on this.
>
>
> --
> Carol
> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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>
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