Hi Tristram,
Yes, I did all of what you suggest; got the download button, got a bleep
asking to download active X control, hit enter and nothing else. 3 times I
tried and each time I got nothing. I'm using firefox, so I might try it
all
again using IE. Trial and effort I suppose.
Many thanks for your help.
Peter
Skype: clydeview2008
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Using BBC Flash based iPlayer site with JAWS -
long
As far as I know this is the only location you can get the player from
whatch out for a dodgy wrap or the link:
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=Sho
ckwaveFlash&ogn=EN_US-gntray_dl_getflashplayer
I am assuming you are a JAWS user for the instructions below.
Once you are on that page:
1 Press letter F until you reach the "google toolbar" checkbox and
press spaceb to uncheck it.
2 Press F once more to get to the terms of service checkbox and
check that, the download will not start unless you check (and thereby
implicitly agree to their terms of service).
3 Then press a letter G until you reach the "download now" graphic
and press spacebar or enter on it.
4 IE will give ou a double blip and tell you that the site wants
to install an activeX control. Press alt+N to get to the information bar
and press shift+F10 or Windows Application key and thoose to install the
ActiveX control.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Technical Support
Sight and Sound Technology
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Peter Logue
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:06 PM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Using BBC Flash based iPlayer site with JAWS -
long
Hi Tristram ,
My problem was with the Adobe site in that I found it very difficult to
download and install the Adobe flash player. You are re-routed to Adobe
where you have to install it from the Adobe site apparently and although I
found the download and install link, my computer did nothing after I hit
the
install button. I tried three times without success. As to Alistairs
accessible I_player itself? I had no trouble with accessing any of the
programs. Without flash though, they didn't work.
Peter
Skype: clydeview2008
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Tristram Llewellyn
Sent: 05 March 2008 15:53
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Subject: [access-uk] Using BBC Flash based iPlayer site with JAWS - long
I noticed this morning some interest in the Flash based iPlayer site. I
have whatched the whole iPlayer thing with hope and then again sometimes
with despondancy. My latest take is that things are improving albeit
slowly
with the Flash based streaming site since I last looked at it JAWS a
couple
of months or so ago. The iPlayer service is still a developing organism
and
still has some shortcomings, it is however useable by a patient and
reasonably knowledgeable JAWS user. I expect that the other Flash aware
screen readers will also be able to attack this site with some success
also.
I would also expect that accessibility of the site will improve.
Technologically I do not think it will be possible to design something
along
the line of the WebbIE tools to gain access to this content. The iPlayer
site is what we have to work with and what we (as in the generalised
screen
reader/access community) would urge the BBC to improve.
The information posted here is mostly accurate but I offer it as is on the
basis of the conditions of ongoing changing nature and hope despite its
imperfect nature that it helps someone out there.
Jaws: Using BBC iPlayer click to play service
Product: Jaws
Version: 9.0
Windows OS: XP
Updated: 05/03/2008
Question:
How can you use the BBC iPlayer click to play service with JAWS.
Note 1: This information in this article relates to a web
resource which may be updated from time to time and therefore some of the
information in this article may be necessarily inaccurate.
Respectively this article is therefore a work in progress which will have
to
be updated to keep page with these developments.
Note 2: The BBC iPlayer service is still in a stage of continued
development and the accessibility of this service will change and may
improve. However, even at present its present state it can be made use of
by moderately knowledgeable JAWS users.
Detailed information:
The BBC late in 2007 introduced its iPlayer download service that allows
users to download the last seven days BBC TV output and play it back on
their PCs with Windows XP or VISTA operating systems. In an effort for
further widen the potential audience the BBC later introduced a Flash
based
playback only service called "Click to play" on the iPlayer site at
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer. This extension to the service was primarily
designed
to placate users of other computer platforms which were not compatible
with
the iPlayer download system, but has become more popular generally and
views
with this service outnumber the download system by about eight to one in
favour of "click to play". The service makes extensive use of Flash
technology and although it is not as easy to use with a screen reader as
it
possibly could be, it can still be useful.
Requirements:
* At present this service has been tested with Internet Explorer
7.0 only under XP. Other browsers make not work as well or differently
(such as Firefox) when using JAWS with this service.
* You must have the latest version of Flash player installed on
your computer this can be obtained from Adobe Systems www.adobe.com. In
future the BBC may decide to use a different format for streaming however
Flash is what is currently in use.
* This system has been tested with JAWS 9.0 so far, other Jaws
versions may also work however Jaws 7.10 may be considered viable.
* You should have some knowledge or how the use virtual PC cursor
keys, have some knowledge of quick navigation keys or have access to
reference them, the letter B for web page buttons and letter H for
headings
will both be very useful and speed up operation.
Overview of operation:
There are two main steps using the iPlayer site, first is program
selection
based on categories and the second is playing and controlling the stream.
When first opened the BBC iPlayer site consists of six main navigation
links
for locate programs, underneath these are sub categories. Once you have
selected a sub-category you may then select a program. After selecting a
program you may start its stream at which point player controls which are
otherwise not visible to the JAWS user become available to control
playback.
Whilst not all of these controls are accessible the majority of the
essential ones can be used.
Steps for program selection:
1 With JAWS and Internet Explorer running press control+O and type
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer and press enter.
2 There are six links on this page that mainly concern us, these
are; home, last 7 days, Categories, A To Z and Radio whose meaning should
be
fairly obvious. You can access these using insert+F7 links list or the
virtual PC cursor and finally by using tab key.
3 Select the link most appropriate to the way you wish to find a
program, eg. "Last 7 days" or "categories" and then press enter.
4 If you have chosen "Last 7 days" link then you may select one of
the days of the week of programmes that have opened below. If you have
chosen "Categories" then you can select programme categories such as
"Drama"
or "Entertainment and comedy" for example. To choose a category move the
virtual PC cursor to the desired category and press enter.
5 To locate the program under the selected category you selected
you can use the letter H to move close the list of results as the category
you have selected will displayed on the page now as a heading.
6 After pressing H to locate the results heading you can use the
arrow keys with the virtual PC cursor to examine the results.
7 With the VPC you can press enter on either "filter results by
most recent" or on "A to Z". The latter of these two options gives the
listing of program results in alphabetical form.
8 Next in order using the VPC will be the heading called results
page number, your programme results may be on more than one page which may
allow you to skip to a page most likely to contain the programs you are
looking for. Pressing enter on any given number will jump to that results
page.
9 Further down are the actual programs are now listed. You can
use the arrow keys and also the letter H to scan through the heading level
three links which are the programs themselves.
Using search edit box to find programs
1 Press insert+F5 to list the form fields on the BBC iplayer site,
there are usually only two, choose the "unlabelled edit" and press enter.
2 Type the name of the program you wish to find and press enter.
3 Press control to stop speech and press letter H for headings to
locate your search results.
4 Now use H for headings for the cursor keys to browse the results
from there.
5 When you have found the desired program press enter to reach its
page and start the stream (see below).
Playing and pausing the stream:
You are now ready to play the stream:
* To locate the play button press B until you reach the "find
programs" button and press tab to reach "4 buttons" or "--:--.--"
button, press enter on either of these to start the stream.
* To stop the stream immediately you can activate the same button
to pause the stream.
Problems playing a stream
When you press enter on some programs from your search results that are
flagged as parental guidance a pop up will display asking you to confirm
you
age. JAWS does not appear to see this, if you have some residual vision
you
may see contrasted a white box against the usually darker background.
You
are not able to start the program until you have dealt with this. If you
find you cannot start the program then this may be the problem. To
resolve
this issue press control+F to find the word "yes" on the page. This forms
part of a prompt for a checkbox "yes I am over 16" and press spacebar to
check the checkbox and then down arrow to the "OK" button and press enter.
From then you can play back the stream.
Hints for player controls
Many of the controls in the player only have numbers and sometimes the
order
in which they appear can change. It is often best to navigate using the
buttons quick navigation keys. Some of these numbers are more important
than others and you can use the "custom label" feature under the
insert+F2
keystroke to name some of these important controls so they stand out for
easier access. The following points are some navigation hints about the
player controls.
* Once the stream has started by pressing enter o the "4" button
or "--:--.-" button you will gain access more of the player's controls.
You can access these using tab and shift tab keys.
* If you tab to the "5" button this is the "play/pause" button
which you can operate with enter or spacebar. Note that you can use the
Jaws custom label feature to name this control.
* If you press tab or sometimes shift tab you will also find other
options including the "6" button which is "rewind" to start of stream
button.
* Button "8" is the volume but is not accessible to use with JAWS.
* To activate full screen view you must use tab or the B for
button quick navigation key to locate button "20" and press spacebar, then
press insert+minus to route JAWS to PC cursor and press number pad slash.
This is because this button only seems to except a mouse click operation.
* To stop full screen mode press escape, the steam will however
continue playing.
Glossary:
Flash
A system designed to deliver content online independent of computer
platform, in order for users to access Flash content one must have the
latest version of the Adobe Flash player installed. Currently at the time
of writing this is version 10.
Pop Up
Usually a term used to describe a small window that appears after a
specific
user action has taken place. Examples of such windows may alert users os
something or to ask for more information.
Stream
A stream is where either audio or video is fed down to a player on a users
PC for listening or watching. This avoids having to download the whole
file
at once so that the user gets almost immediate playback except where
Internet connection conditions are bad. Streaming has become most popular
since the widespread introduction of broadband.
Quick Navigation Keys
A system used in Jaws that allows letter keys to be used whilst working in
Internet Explorer that allow single key navigation to specific kinds of
page
elements for example B to navigate to firs and subsequent button elements
on
a web page.
VPC
Short for Virtual PC Cursor as when used within the Internet Explorer
window
with JAWS.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Technical Support
Sight and Sound Technology
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