Hi,
This will present the possibility for fraud on a massive scale,
however. Pretty sure their will be 2000 sets of license details on the
internet, all with their list prices.
On 11/30/15, Alex Stone <alex.stone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If you don't live in the UK, that's up to you, but if you do, that's** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
just stupid!
On 29/11/2015 22:39, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
out of principle i dont use BBC services long story so wont go into
the ins and outs of it. as for configuring tor to poke a hole in the
right place i dont think thats an easy option because by its nature
tor is designed to use IP cloaking/randomization as its MO.
the way the BBC are behaving ( especially its licence revenue
collectors/enforcers) raises sufficient questions to question the
legallity of the licence fee.
On 29/11/2015 22:17, Alex Stone wrote:
Amro, with you all the way here, I haven't found it necessary to do
such things yet, but once the government decide that we all have to
prove we have tv licenses in order to access BBC content, which it
looks very much like they're thinking of, then I may well choose to
do something similar.
On 29/11/2015 21:50, Amro Bilal wrote:
Hi Shaun,
Many thanks for this. Yes I understand, reading about how Tor
functions I wasn’t sure it would work for this purpose. If you’ve
had the chance to try and see how easy and accessible it is to root
your traffic through a chosen IP/server that would be good.
Presently I have my VPN subscription but don’t mind trying Tor if it
can do what I want.
And just so I don’t get replies on why it’s wrong to do this, I’m a
TV licence payer so I don’t see much harm in watching my favourite
TV programs when I’m on a holiday!
Best
Amro
-----Original Message----- From: Shaun O'Connor
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 8:13 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Tor Project, was Betternet.
Amro
although tor is usefull for accessing blocked sites it relies on its
effectiveness by not relying on external pluggins, therefore it is
possible that tor may not be ideal for using with BBC iplayer ( i can
possibly test that out though on my tor bundle and see if it works.)
On 29/11/2015 19:44, Amro Bilal wrote:
Hi Shaun, a question about Tor please. Can this VPN service be used
to access sites that are locked to a geographical location? E.g.
can one use Tor to access BBC iPlayer whilst traveling abroad? I
browsed the Tor Project site but couldn’t find any mention of this.
Thanks.
Amro
-----Original Message----- From: Shaun O'Connor
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:43 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Betternet.
i'll research the ultrasonic stuff a bit and see what i find, there is
almost certainly a US patent on the technology.
As for putting your phone in a microwave oven that is for times
when you
are NOT using it, fyi even if your phone is"off" the built in
camera and
microphone can be remotely activated, so, don't leave yor mobile
device
in the same place that you are likely to be holding a private
conversation.( or engaging in any other private activity that you dont
want used against you. however legitimate that activity may be).
Coming back to the altrasonic snooping the EFF web site might be a
good
place to start looking.
On 29/11/2015 09:26, Les Smithson wrote:
How do I use my phone if its inside an oven?
What's that about ultrasonic snooping? Can you point me at a link?
Google didn't come up with anything, or maybe GCHQ got to them first.
Shaun O'Connor writes:
>
> two usefull tactice
> 1) put your phone in a faraday pouch when out and about(that
blocks rf
> both ways)
> 2) place your phone in a microwave oven and close the
door(same purpose
> blocks rf both ways), however in the second scenario make
sure you do
> NOT accidentally turn on your microwave with the phone still
inside.
>
> however in both instances ultrasonic technology can
potentially bypass
> this simple measure.(rumour has it that advertising companies are
> exploring this area in a bid to defeat ever increesingly
sophisticated
> ad blocking tech)
> On 28/11/2015 23:56, Alex Stone wrote:
> > Didn't Edward Snowdon reveal some of this stuff? I listened
to him
> > being interviewed on a podcast the other day, it was very
interesting,
> > just don't think that just because your phone is switched
off they
> > can't find anything out.
> >
> > On 28/11/2015 23:53, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
> >>
> >> It is already technically posible to unmask a persons
identiy even if
> >> anonymising sodftwere or services are used, as an example
the tor
> >> network has been penetrated and wrongdoers discovered and
appropriate
> >> action taken.
> >>
> >> to understand how unmasking is actually acheived would
require a book
> >> in itself to explain the possibilities so, to some extent the
> >> authorities" are already deeply embbedded in the system.
> >>
> >> by their nature most VPN services are compromised by virtue
of the
> >> fact tht a potential user is required to submit personal
information
> >> (either directly or indirectly) to the provider.
> >>
> >> however I'm only skimming the surface of how your identity
can be
> >> compromised.
> >>
> >> Turning to the legality of using such services it much
depends where
> >> you are operating from, currently it is NOT an offence to
use vpn
> >> seercies in the UK but this could change at any given
moment. the
> >> question that should be upper most on your mind is the
purpose for
> >> which you intend to use the service. and the changing
political
> >> climate, todays acceptable use could be tomorrows
"criminal" activity.
> >> bear in mind also that your service provider can generally
determine
> >> if you are using a proxy service ( especially so called hidden
> >> services), and the very use of such services renders you as
" a
> >> potential person of interest" to the authorities.
> >>
> >>> Greetings,
> >>>
> >>> My querie as to legality arose when I read about being
able to
> >>> access sites
> >>> anonymously and hide identities.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder how much longer it will be before those in
authority find a
> >>> way of
> >>> stopping anonymous access of any kind?
> >>>
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