Hi Ray, To make texting even more persuasive, I have a program on my phone called Mini GPS from Psiloc http://www.psiloc.com, which allows you to trigger events based on cell-based location. So when you get to a location, say on the train, you can trigger certain actions, such as making the phone alarm you to tell you that we are there. One of those actions you can trigger is an automatic text, which you have pre-written. So because I travel a lot on the train, whin I reach Kings Cross, I have my phone automagically send a text message to Angie that says "Be home in half an hour or so". Because of possible delays, it then sends another text when I reach Knebworth, the station before mine, that says "Five minutes", and so she gets an idea of where I am, and with all the stuff going on in London, this is reassuring for her at the moment <Smile>. So what I am trying to say is that based on the location, not the time, my phone automagically sends Angie SMS messages with progress reports of my journey. I also use it sometimes if my sister is picking me up from the station. It throws her a text when I am a quarter of an hour away. Now, with voice mail, this would be far more tedious to do, since for a start, I can still be asleep on the train, while my phone is sending texts in the background. But once my phone throws the final text, it also triggers an alarm to wake me up <Smile>. Is that persuasive? All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: 15 July 2005 00:22 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: TEXTING WITH TALKS Steve. One of the most coherent and persuasive posts yet on this subject. I can imagine though that doing voice messages in a similar fashion when you are out of range could be technically feasible, although that's unlikely to actually be implemented. The much larger memory of phones would do it at the sending end, modifications would be needed to bypass the voicemail intro. Fact is though that just now I cannot afford to get into Talks and the phone to go with it just now. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Nutt To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:15 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: TEXTING WITH TALKS Hi Ray, One advantage is time. It's much quicker to write in the phone "Be home late", than dialing up, waiting for someone to babble on their answering machine for a minut eor o,s then leaving a voice message. Not only that, if you don't have a signal, you can still write your text, still send it, and once you are back in coverage range, the phone will automagically send the message. Conversely, if you are out of coverage, how are you going to leave a voice message? All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: 14 July 2005 20:44 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: TEXTING WITH TALKS Hi. I don't want to detract the practical help being given on texting and Talks, and it may well be I'm missing something here, but what's the actual advantage of texting, over say leaving a voice message? I am inclined to think the latter is much more personal, and a damned sight easier. On T-Mobile I pick up voice messages free; think the sender gets flieced a bit though. So, what's the deal? It must be more than its 'cool'. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Nutt uk] Re: TEXTING WITH TALKS Hi Ian, In my view, your blind friend is right. Once you get used to it, you will probably never want to turn it off again, but it does take some getting used to at first. But persevere with it, and it saves time, certainly. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 14 July 2005 11:21 Hi all, I'm curious to know whether Vis prefer to use predictive texting or not when using Talks enabled phones. Personally I don't use it at all but I have a blind friend who swears by it claiming that it's much faster. Any thoughts? Cheers now. Ian http://www.bbc.co.uk/