the electronic program guide On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:30 AM, spring.flower wrote: > forgive my thickness but what does epg stand for? > > Trace > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" > <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:18 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info > > >> Hi William. >> >> I don't know, seeing as I don't have a sky plus box, but I don't think so, >> only the EPG, menu system and current and next program information like the >> freeview box that RNIB sell. That is all I know so until the device comes >> out its a question of watch this space. >> >> All the best, Ibrahim. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" >> <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:13 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info >> >> >>> will it read plannr then >>> >>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Ibrahim Gucukoglu wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Damon. >>>> >>>> The manager I know at Sky swares that they've seen it in action, and that >>>> it indeed does provide access to the EPG and menu system on the box, >>>> though not the interactive services as in those accessed through the >>>> telephone line. As you say, we'll know more when the product is released >>>> in a month so plenty of time to fuel the flames of room our until then ay? >>>> *smile*. >>>> >>>> All the best, Ibrahim. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 3:23 PM >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info >>>> >>>> >>>>> I think we need to wait til it comes out or we get further statements. >>>>> The price has been quoted differently at 45 and 60 pounds so clearly >>>>> someone's confusing something. I think that we shouldn't see Sky >>>>> Accessible Customer services as a wholly believable source based on >>>>> previous issues. But they were quite insistant it's not a talking EPG. >>>>> And by all accounts, RNIB couldn't make it talk when they hacked the box >>>>> so perhaps this is the case which many people will be disappointed with. >>>>> But I think helpful dialogue needs to come from this if indeed it is a >>>>> let down. >>>>> >>>>> ...Damon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >>>>> Of william lomas >>>>> Sent: 24 September 2010 15:18 >>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info >>>>> >>>>> I suggest no one buy shtis so sky have waste r and d funds >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Damon Rose wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It does record but it doesn't give you 7 days of programmes to choose >>>>>> from like the EPG does. And then we can assume that you can't access >>>>>> the programmes you've recorded because apparently this machine doesn't >>>>> >>>>>> read menus. >>>>>> >>>>>> I should note that I got this info from the Accessible Customer >>>>>> Services line. I pressed her a number of times and she stated clearly >>>>>> that it is not a talking EPG. It's also worth noting that they are >>>>>> customer support people, not press handlers, and so the information >>>>>> possibly hasn't been honed or framed in the best way. >>>>>> >>>>>> ...Damon >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Francis Holman >>>>>> Sent: 24 September 2010 14:59 >>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info >>>>>> >>>>>> Well if it does not record what's the point. I think I will stick >>>>>> with my portset freeview at least that does most things including >>>>>> reading the epg and recording. >>>>>> Fran. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "william lomas" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:47 PM >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> sixty quid to read basic information? >>>>>>> Ibraheem what please does the supposed manager of accessibility team >>>>>>> have to say about this? >>>>>>> Can he please come on this list to clarify what we are getting for >>>>>>> our >>>>>> >>>>>>> money? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Damon Rose wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I missed a rather important point. Sorry don't know how I edited it >>>>>> out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can use the search and scan banner and find out what's on up to >>>>>>>> twelve hours in the future. I think you will be able to hit record >>>>>>>> on >>>>>> >>>>>>>> top of the programme so that it gets recorded and added to your sky >>>>>>>> planner. Of course, the slight issue is you can't then read your sky >>>>> >>>>>>>> planner and watch it back. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Damon Rose >>>>>>>> Sent: 24 September 2010 14:28 >>>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Sky Talker: much more info >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sky Talker comes out on 26 October. Price is 60 pounds. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The box looks like a Sky Broadband router. It's black. It has a >>>>>>>> volume up and down switch for the voice on its top. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are 9 available voices male and female. You can adjust their >>>>>>>> tone and speed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can't access the EPG or any of the menus, it only works from >>>>>>>> within the channel you're watching. It'll say what channel and what >>>>>>>> programme is on now on the channel you've selected. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The play, record, rewind and pause buttons all speak. You will get a >>>>> >>>>>>>> warning every 60 seconds if you leave it on pause so you know what's >>>>> >>>>>>>> happening. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can press the remote's 'I' info button for a programme synopsis. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it also speaks channel numbers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Damon Rose >>>>>>>> Senior Content Producer Ouch! website and talk show BBC Vision >>>>>>>> Learning >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tel: 020 8752 4427 (x0224427) >>>>>>>> email: damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> Twitter: @damonrose >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bbc.co.uk/ouch is home of the Ouch! 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