[access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info

  • From: "spring.flower" <spring.flower@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:44:42 +0100

I sort of worked it out for myself when I was sat eating lunch, that's where you go to find a prog if you want to record it, right? if it doesn't talk in there or the planner its going to be fairly useless to me I'm afraid. 


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----- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:42 AM
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the electronic program guide

On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:30 AM, spring.flower wrote:


forgive my thickness but what does epg stand for?

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:18 PM
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Hi William.
I don't know, seeing as I don't have a sky plus box, but I don't think so, only the EPG, menu system and current and next program information like the freeview box that RNIB sell. That is all I know so until the device comes out its a question of watch this space. 

All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:13 PM
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will it read plannr then

On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Ibrahim Gucukoglu wrote:


Hi Damon.
The manager I know at Sky swares that they've seen it in action, and that it indeed does provide access to the EPG and menu system on the box, though not the interactive services as in those accessed through the telephone line. As you say, we'll know more when the product is released in a month so plenty of time to fuel the flames of room our until then ay? *smile*. 

All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 3:23 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info
I think we need to wait til it comes out or we get further statements. 
The price has been quoted differently at 45 and 60 pounds so clearly
someone's confusing something. I think that we shouldn't see Sky
Accessible Customer services as a wholly believable source based on
previous issues. But they were quite insistant it's not a talking EPG. And by all accounts, RNIB couldn't make it talk when they hacked the box so perhaps this is the case which many people will be disappointed with. But I think helpful dialogue needs to come from this if indeed it is a 
let down.

...Damon




-----Original Message-----
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Of william lomas
Sent: 24 September 2010 15:18
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info

I suggest no one buy shtis so sky have waste r and d funds

On Sep 24, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Damon Rose wrote:
It does record but it doesn't give you 7 days of programmes to choose 
from like the EPG does. And then we can assume that you can't access
the programmes you've recorded because apparently this machine doesn't 


read menus.

I should note that I got this info from the Accessible Customer
Services line. I pressed her a number of times and she stated clearly 
that it is not a talking EPG. It's also worth noting that they are
customer support people, not press handlers, and so the information
possibly hasn't been honed or framed in the best way.

...Damon



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Francis Holman
Sent: 24 September 2010 14:59
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info

Well if it does not record what's the point.  I think I will stick
with my portset freeview at least that does most things including
reading the epg and recording.
Fran.
----- Original Message -----
From: "william lomas" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:47 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info



sixty quid to read basic information?
Ibraheem what please does the supposed manager of accessibility team 
have to say about this?
Can he please come on this list to clarify what we are getting for
our



money?

On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Damon Rose wrote:
I missed a rather important point. Sorry don't know how I edited it 
out.
You can use the search and scan banner and find out what's on up to 
twelve hours in the future. I think you will be able to hit record
on
top of the programme so that it gets recorded and added to your sky planner. Of course, the slight issue is you can't then read your sky 


planner and watch it back.









-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 24 September 2010 14:28
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Subject: [access-uk] Sky Talker: much more info


Sky Talker comes out on 26 October. Price is 60 pounds.

The box looks like a Sky Broadband router. It's black. It has a
volume up and down switch for the voice on its top.

There are 9 available voices male and female. You can adjust their
tone and speed.

You can't access the EPG or any of the menus, it only works from
within the channel you're watching. It'll say what channel and what 
programme is on now on the channel you've selected.
The play, record, rewind and pause buttons all speak. You will get a
warning every 60 seconds if you leave it on pause so you know what's 


happening.
You can press the remote's 'I' info button for a programme synopsis. 

it also speaks channel numbers.



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