Probably, as there was no re-wiring when I changed over. I guess Tiscali are paying the line rental. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Leaving BT Barry, aren't you using BT exchanges though? Dj Paddy Keeping in touch with me: Twitter Username- dj_paddy Twitter RSS- http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline/4871941.rss BLOG RSS- http://feeds.feedburner.com/irishgeek Email/msn contact: djpaddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: djpaddy My websites are mainly used for jumping off platforms, they are http://www.djpaddy.co.uk http://www.barry-toner.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 5:39 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Leaving BT >I don't have cable. I use Tiscali and get up to 8mb unlimited broadband, > free calls to any land line in the UK and free line rental for £19.99 a > month. BT are no longer in the equation. > > Barry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 5:26 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Leaving BT > > > Simon, what is the catch? Is there a download limit? Will you keep your > BT > line? If so, Bt will know your excuse was an excuse? haha > > I would be interested in joining up to but we can't get cable lines here > only via the phone. Is it really £20 per month for phone and broadband? > > Thanks, CW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "simon.dowling" <simodowl@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 5:03 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Leaving BT > > >> HI DJ, I TOO AM LEAVING BT, AS A VIRGIN REP CAME ROUND AND ASKED WHETHER >> I >> WAS HAPPY WITH WHOM I'M WITH. >> THEY SAID TO ME NOT TO TELL THEM I WAS MOVING TO ANOTHER PROVIDER, >> BECAUSE >> BT WOULD QUIBLE OVER MY CONTRACT. >> INSTEAD THEY SAID TO TELL THEM THAT I WAS MOVING IN TO A SICK RELATIVE'S >> HOUSE TO LOOK AFTER THEM, AND THEY ALREADY HAD A PHONE LINE SO I WOULDN'T >> HAVE ANY PROBS WITH THEM. >> I MUST SAY VIRGIN WILL SAVE ME MONEY AS THEY WOULD CHARGE ME 20 PER MONTH >> FOR BROADBAND AND A PHONE LINE AND CALLS WOULD BE FREE UNLESS I PHONED A >> MOBI. >> MY BT COSTS ME ON AVERAGE ABOUT 150 PER QUARTER. >> SO AS SOON AS I HAVE PAID THIS BILL I WILL BE CHANGING OVER. >> http://www.secretsthatwekeep.com/003 >> Simon >> creator and owner of the winmx4theblind mailing list. >> to find out more visit >> http://groups.google.com/group/winmx4theblind >> Group email address winmx4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> msn, simodowl@xxxxxxxxxxx >> skype, slifinger >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:33 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Leaving BT >> >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > We are leaving BT's pathetic 8mb service and moving to 20mb cable on >> > the >> > 17th of this month. >> > >> > BT customer options gave us a bit of hassle, saying we'd be lible for > the >> > payments remaining on our 18 month contract and that if we didnt' pay >> > it >> > we'd be taken to court, and the usual rhetoric that they dont' >> > guarantee >> > speeds. >> > >> > The technician who's been helping us with the entire process along with >> > his manager has assured us that this is not the case. >> > >> > In short, if people do decide to challenge BT for end user performance >> > issues don't take any nonsense, get to speak to somebody who knows what >> > they're talking about, have the call eskaulated to a senior technician > and >> > explain you're phoning about throughput. >> > >> > I'm exhausted by the whole process, 5 engineers, 3 of which where >> > broadband engineers who didnt' know they're arse from their elbow > barring >> > one, countless phone calls, and testing both on BT's part and mine. >> > The >> > amount of hardware including routers, computers, filters I've tryed is >> > staggering. >> > >> > Still, I learnt alot about ADSL! You can't put a price on that >> > experience. >> > >> > Thanks to each and everyone of you that offered advice and > encouragement. >> > >> > I even have went as far as to write a 9 page letter to BBC's watchdog >> > as >> > I'm concerned there are quite possibly alot of people out there > recieving >> > very poor performance and are being fogged off. If you're far away >> > from >> > the exchange or your exchange doesnt' support the speeds and you're >> > well >> > informed about this then fine, but for those that aren't... >> > >> > If anyone wants support concerning DSL and what questions to put to >> > unknowledgeable and in my experience patronising staff dont' hesitate >> > to >> > mail me privately and I'll see if I can help out. >> > >> > Dj Paddy >> > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > ** and in the Subject line type >> > ** unsubscribe >> > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> > ** immediately-following link:- >> > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> > ** or send a message, to >> > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > >> > >> > >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq