A very interesting post Catheryn. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2000@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Access-UK" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: [access-uk] JAWS punctuation/customisation question | Hi, | | Sorry if people have already seen this on the jaws-uk list but no one there | has responded and there seem to be more people here, and I'm desperate to | sort out the punctuation question. | | I've got a specific question here, and a general comment. | | My question is how do I get JAWS 7.0 to indicate capital letters by saying | "Cap", in Microsoft Word, and to do so both when I am cursoring down line by | line and across character by character? But not during Say All. | | Step by step instructions would be most appreciated. | | Now my general comment. I apologise if this has been gone through before | but I've only just upgraded to 7.0 from 4.5. I don't want to start a long | topic of moaning here, but I would appreciate people's views on what I am | feeling. | | Am I alone in feeling that the array of customisations to do with how JAWS | speaks formatting, punctuation etc is unnecessarily detailed and very | confusing? I think I should be able to work out the answer to my above | question by myself. But I can't. | | I've been using JAWS since 2001, and Windows since 1998. I consider I'm | pretty good at working things out, and, if I can't work things out without | doing so - reading help topics and following instructions. And I know | products change over time and we have to do an amount of learning. But I | think there's something wrong when an experienced user such as myself can't | get JAWS to announce capitals in the way I want it to; and can't get a | quick, understandable answer from the help topics. Does anyone else find | this? | | If I am struggling, I am wondering how does a user new to JAWS manage? | | To a certain extent I guess my frustration is to do with the change from | what I'm used to; and to the fact that, because I've grown used to e.g. | capitals being announced in a certain way, I want it exactly the same. But | I'm sure that's not all of it - apart from the quest to get the settings the | same, I'm just generally quite baffled by the differet places/choices one | goes to to make changes - verbosity; configuration manager; JAWS/options. | This has always been the case to a certain extent but to me it seems worse | now (unless I'm getting less patient with age). Some of it isn't logical to | me - e.g. Why is something called x manager (Speech And Sounds Manager" not | listed in "JAWS Manager" invoked by pressing ins F2? I found it in | Configuration Manager...but hey, this doesn't make for a very usable | structure to me. | | I have come to the point where I'll have to put in a lot of time to learn | this product as well as I need to. I think this learning time could be | dramatically reduced if the menus/managers were organised in a more logical | way. And if they are to be like this, I'm thinking it would be good to have | a wizard to step through the process of making customisations. | | Also what I find noteworthy is one of the reasons I chose JAWS in the first | place over WE was the fact that I found JAWS's interface/customisations to | be intuitive. I no longer find this to be the case. (I don't want to start | a discussion about WE v JAWS, but I'm just interested to know whether anyone | else finds/found this frustrating too). | | Catherine | | | | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | ** and in the Subject line type | ** unsubscribe | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | ** immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | ** or send a message, to | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq