[access-uk] Re: JAWS punctuation/customisation question

  • From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:39:45 -0000

A very interesting post Catheryn.
Ray

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2000@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Access-UK" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: [access-uk] JAWS punctuation/customisation question


| Hi,
| 
| Sorry if people have already seen this on the jaws-uk list but no one there
| has responded and there seem to be more people here, and I'm desperate to
| sort out the punctuation question.
| 
| I've got a specific question here, and a general comment.
| 
| My question is how do I get JAWS 7.0 to indicate capital letters by saying
| "Cap", in Microsoft Word, and to do so both when I am cursoring down line by
| line and across character by character?  But not during Say All.
| 
| Step by step instructions would be most appreciated.
| 
| Now my general comment.  I apologise if this has been gone through before
| but I've only just upgraded to 7.0 from 4.5.  I don't want to start a long
| topic of moaning here, but I would appreciate people's views on what I am
| feeling.
| 
| Am I alone in feeling that the array of customisations to do with how JAWS
| speaks formatting, punctuation etc is unnecessarily detailed and very
| confusing?  I think I should be able to work out the answer to my above
| question by myself.  But I can't.
| 
| I've been using JAWS since 2001, and Windows since 1998.  I consider I'm
| pretty good at working things out, and, if I can't work things out without
| doing so - reading help topics and following instructions.  And I know
| products change over time and we have to do an amount of learning.  But I
| think there's something wrong when an experienced user such as myself can't
| get JAWS to announce capitals in the way I want it to; and can't get a
| quick, understandable answer from the help topics.  Does anyone else find
| this?
| 
| If I am struggling, I am wondering how does a user new to JAWS manage?
| 
| To a certain extent I guess my frustration is to do with the change from
| what I'm used to; and to the fact that, because I've grown used to e.g.
| capitals being announced in a certain way, I want it exactly the same.  But
| I'm sure that's not all of it - apart from the quest to get the settings the
| same, I'm just generally quite baffled by the differet places/choices one
| goes to to make changes - verbosity; configuration manager; JAWS/options.
| This has always been the case to a certain extent but to me it seems worse
| now (unless I'm getting less patient with age).  Some of it isn't logical to
| me - e.g. Why is something called x manager (Speech And Sounds Manager" not
| listed in "JAWS Manager" invoked by pressing ins F2?  I found it in
| Configuration Manager...but hey, this doesn't make for a very usable
| structure to me.
| 
| I have come to the point where I'll have to put in a lot of time to learn
| this product as well as I need to.  I think this learning time could be
| dramatically reduced if the menus/managers were organised in a more logical
| way.  And if they are to be like this, I'm thinking it would be good to have
| a wizard to step through the process of making customisations.
| 
| Also what I find noteworthy is one of the reasons I chose JAWS in the first
| place over WE was the fact that I found JAWS's interface/customisations to
| be intuitive.  I no longer find this to be the case.  (I don't want to start
| a discussion about WE v JAWS, but I'm just interested to know whether anyone
| else finds/found this frustrating too).
| 
| Catherine
| 
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