[access-uk] Re: JAWS punctuation/customisation question

  • From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:24:52 -0000

Hi Catherine

The rules about when capitalisation is announced can be found by invoking the configuration manager within insert 6, then accessing set options with alt S, then text processing with T. I think it is the second option in the dialog and is a combo box relating to when capitalisation is announced. Remember, if you just want the caps to be announced in word, launch word first, then invoke the config manager.

Exactly how jaws behaves in this regard when announcing capitals is controlled using the Speech and Sounds Manager. Again from the config manager, press alt S for set options, M for select scheme.

There is help about how to use the speech and sounds manager in the help system, but essentially you will need to probably edit the classic scheme (that is the simplest way and there is an edit button available), choose the miscellaneous tabbed page, and its the first item in there. You can have jaws play a sound, indicate the presence of caps in a different voice, or you can have it say whatever you want!

If you have any more questions, please do let me know.

Brian Hartgen
----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2000@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Access-UK" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: [access-uk] JAWS punctuation/customisation question



Hi,

Sorry if people have already seen this on the jaws-uk list but no one there
has responded and there seem to be more people here, and I'm desperate to
sort out the punctuation question.


I've got a specific question here, and a general comment.

My question is how do I get JAWS 7.0 to indicate capital letters by saying
"Cap", in Microsoft Word, and to do so both when I am cursoring down line by
line and across character by character? But not during Say All.


Step by step instructions would be most appreciated.

Now my general comment.  I apologise if this has been gone through before
but I've only just upgraded to 7.0 from 4.5.  I don't want to start a long
topic of moaning here, but I would appreciate people's views on what I am
feeling.

Am I alone in feeling that the array of customisations to do with how JAWS
speaks formatting, punctuation etc is unnecessarily detailed and very
confusing?  I think I should be able to work out the answer to my above
question by myself.  But I can't.

I've been using JAWS since 2001, and Windows since 1998. I consider I'm
pretty good at working things out, and, if I can't work things out without
doing so - reading help topics and following instructions. And I know
products change over time and we have to do an amount of learning. But I
think there's something wrong when an experienced user such as myself can't
get JAWS to announce capitals in the way I want it to; and can't get a
quick, understandable answer from the help topics. Does anyone else find
this?


If I am struggling, I am wondering how does a user new to JAWS manage?

To a certain extent I guess my frustration is to do with the change from
what I'm used to; and to the fact that, because I've grown used to e.g.
capitals being announced in a certain way, I want it exactly the same. But
I'm sure that's not all of it - apart from the quest to get the settings the
same, I'm just generally quite baffled by the differet places/choices one
goes to to make changes - verbosity; configuration manager; JAWS/options.
This has always been the case to a certain extent but to me it seems worse
now (unless I'm getting less patient with age). Some of it isn't logical to
me - e.g. Why is something called x manager (Speech And Sounds Manager" not
listed in "JAWS Manager" invoked by pressing ins F2? I found it in
Configuration Manager...but hey, this doesn't make for a very usable
structure to me.


I have come to the point where I'll have to put in a lot of time to learn
this product as well as I need to. I think this learning time could be
dramatically reduced if the menus/managers were organised in a more logical
way. And if they are to be like this, I'm thinking it would be good to have
a wizard to step through the process of making customisations.


Also what I find noteworthy is one of the reasons I chose JAWS in the first
place over WE was the fact that I found JAWS's interface/customisations to
be intuitive. I no longer find this to be the case. (I don't want to start
a discussion about WE v JAWS, but I'm just interested to know whether anyone
else finds/found this frustrating too).


Catherine



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