Hi Doris
Could I just correct you in terms of FS Braille support. They do support
Braille displays, especially their own Focus range. But they have now
removed serial support in JAWS 11. Consequently, you either have to use an
USB to parallel adaptor or not at all with older displays like mine. The
Focus displays they sell are quite nice and rugged, but if you take
like-for-like, I don't have just under six grand to buy the equivalent Focus
80 which is comparable to my 80 cell PowerBraille that still functions well.
So, FS does support Braille, but they have chosen a road that I don't want
to follow.
Kind Regards,
J
Jackie Cairns
jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Doris and Chris
Sent: 11 May 2010 17:55
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Braille Support - Re: Re: My experiences moving over to
Window Eyes
I am a speech user only and thus have no experience nor actual need for
Braille support at least until now but many people I know do.
I am appalled at FS's not supporting Braille devices.
I have been wondering, though, is it possible to run brtty alongside jaws to
give the Braille support while using jaws for speech?
Cheers,
Doris
At 03:21 PM 5/11/2010 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Eleanor
>
>I bought my PowerBraille some years back secondhand. I appreciate that
>things change, more sophisticated technology appears on the market, and
>you move on from operating system to operating system or version to
>version of a product. And perhaps FS decided to remove serial support
>within JAWS 11 for reasons we aren't privy to. Nevertheless, I am
>using Windows 7, need to run JAWS 11, and want my PowerBraille to
>remain active. It can't be done, they aren't interested in little me
>or the minority who use such displays, so therein lies my choice. I
>can't afford six grand for a new Focus just because it supports USB
>only, and there isn't anything wrong with my PowerBraille apart from
>old age, and I know how that feels anyway, (big smile).
>
>It's all about what suits the individual at the end of the day. I have
>my reasons and bear no disrespect to anybody. I just have to do what
>suits me and my budget.
>
>
>Jackie Cairns
>Braille Specialist
>Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
>Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
>NN3 6WD
>Tel: 01604 798024
>Mob: 07887 883815
>www.sightandsound.co.uk
>-----Original Message-----
>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>Sent: 11 May 2010 15:39
>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experiences moving over to Window Eyes
>
>Indeed Jackie. I think my PowerBraille cost eight thousand, yes eight
>thousand pounds!!!!
>
>Eleanor
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:34 PM
>Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experiences moving over to Window Eyes
>
>
> > Hi Eleanor
> >
> > Freedom Scientific have removed serial support from JAWS version 11.
> > Up until then, I was able to do just as you describe by using an USB
> > to serial converter on a Netbook or laptop. Unfortunately, FS have
> > failed to deal with this problem in JAWS 11. They advise you to
> > purchase an USB to parallel converter, but it doesn't work. And,
> > without going into complications, their attempt at trying to give me
> > a work-around screwed up previous versions of JAWS I need to run on my
machine.
> >
> > So, in essence, USB to serial conversion works prior to JAWS 11 on a
> > display such as PowerBraille, but not any more, and that's my big
> > problem really. I like my PowerBraille display, it still functions
> > well, and I'm not going to change it unless I either have the money,
> > or choose to of my own doing.
> >
> > Jackie Cairns
> > Braille Specialist
> > Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology
> > Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park
> > Northampton
> > NN3 6WD
> > Tel: 01604 798024
> > Mob: 07887 883815
> > www.sightandsound.co.uk
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> > Sent: 11 May 2010 15:15
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experiences moving over to Window Eyes
> >
> > Hi Jackie
> > I appreciate I may be wrong, but did I not understand you to say
> > some time back that a USB parallel cable would work with Power Braille
and Jaws 10?
> > For those interested Power Braille and Focus blue work with
> > Supernova also.
> >
> > Eleanor
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:52 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experiences moving over to Window Eyes
> >
> >
> >> Hi Pele
> >>
> >> One of the things dearest to my heart, as many know, is Braille.
> >> And because of the route FS have elected to take regarding the
> >> digital signing of drivers - rightly or wrongly depending on your
> >> point of view - I can no longer use my own PowerBraille display if
> >> I want to work with JAWS 11.
> >> Having just purchased a Windows 7 laptop, I obviously need to run
> >> JAWS 11, and there is no way around the display issue because I am
> >> not prepared, and certainly can't afford, to purchase something
> >> that suits FS. I know from what I've seen and heard that
> >> Window-Eyes supports Braille very well, and this is just one of
> >> many incentives for me to move over. I don't think I'll ever
> >> uninstall JAWS from my PC because it is something I will use having
> >> forked out for it. But I'm prepared to give Window-Eyes a good
> >> try, particularly with Braille in mind. As soon as I downloaded
> >> the demo and chose a PowerBraille display, it went first go.
> >>
> >> Time will tell.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jackie Cairns
> >> Braille Specialist
> >> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology
> >> Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park
> >> Northampton
> >> NN3 6WD
> >> Tel: 01604 798024
> >> Mob: 07887 883815
> >> www.sightandsound.co.uk
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of Pele West
> >> Sent: 11 May 2010 14:37
> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: My experiences moving over to Window Eyes
> >>
> >> Hi Jackie and Everyone
> >>
> >> I am also someone who has gone over completely to Window-Eyes. I
> >> used JAWS when I was at work as it had better support for MS Office
> >> at that time but, as my husband preferred Window-Eyes, always used it
at home.
> >> Now I am no longer at work I find Window-Eyes works well with the
> >> programs I run.
> >>
> >> I have a few issues with Windows 7, but I think they are related to
> >> the operating system rather than the screen reader.
> >>
> >> Good luck, Jackie.
> >>
> >> Pele
> >>
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