I was more concerned by the user at the start of the piece. He seemed to me to be saying that there were accessibility problems where accessibility wasn't the real issue. It's this kind of thing which gets claims of accessibility a bad name. A bit of a case of crying accessibility wolf. Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Nutt To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:17 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC I player answers back on in touch Hi Iain, I only wish the "totally blind consultant" whom they referred to actually came on air and spoke to give it some balance. But all they said was that that person, and they didn't name them, said that it was accessible, but more difficult. All the best Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Iain Lackie Sent: Wednesday 6 August 2008 12:18 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC I player answers back on in touch My main problem (as I may have already said) was that the iPlayer was painted as much more inaccessible than it actually is. It is indeed very poor that the areas which are inaccessible are inaccessible. However, the main functionality such as finding and playing programmes is far from inaccessible. Like every other website, all that is needed is to spend a little time getting to know it and a willingness to overcome the fear of Flash. Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Keen To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC I player answers back on in touch Ray Just to point out that Quicktime is perfectly accessible using voice over on my Apple mac book, I use it all the time for listening to audio books in mp3 and I have had no problems listening to streams via the www. As the saying goes, works for me! smile Cheers! G From Bridgerule, Devon, England. Devon, glorious Devon (first verse) Combe and tor, green meadow and lane, birds on the waving bough. Beetling cliffs by the surging main, rich red loam for the plough. Devon's the font of the finest blood that braces England's breed. Her maidens fair as the apple bud and her men are men indeed. On 6 Aug 2008, at 12:02, Rays Home wrote: Well, at least it isn't the Apple Quick Time player we're dealing with here, and that abounds in many podcasts. A greater load of pance in lack of accessability is hard to imagine.