Hi Chris, If SpeakOn was a product that everyone could use, I would definately take a look at it and consider using it. -----Original Message----- Sent by Chris Hallsworth on Saturday, January 31, 2009 at 07:56 PM Well that would be great. If a version of SpeakOn can be produced for the general public then people like James and myself may use it more often. I'll certainly keep it on my system though. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Porat" <isaac@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Announcement - New SpeakOn features release 30 January 2009 > These are relevant points Chris. > Interestingly, a large media provider approached me recently asking if I > could make a cutdown version of SpeakOn for the general public. What they > are saying is that many people are in situations that they don't want or > can > not have a screen in front of them. > So a concept of a product for the blind may go the other way; to the main > stream. > Regards > Isaac > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Chris Hallsworth > Sent: 31 January 2009 19:31 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Announcement - New SpeakOn features release 30 > January 2009 > I think what James is basically saying, and in no way am I bashing Isaac > for > his hard work and extensive training he did with me last year on how to > use > SpeakOn, however I'll say this anyway. I think it boils down to the fact > that we'd rather use products that the sighted can equally use. Foobar2000 > is one of them, Winamp is another, etc. SpeakOn, no way can a sighted > person > use it because there's no visual layout for them to use and therefore they > won't be able to click on anything but the title. What I will say Isaac is > thanks for a good release, it seems to work better on my system than > previous releases, and please keep up the good works. > -- > Chris Hallsworth > e-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx > Skype: chrishallsworth7266 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Isaac Porat" <isaac@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 7:24 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Announcement - New SpeakOn features release 30 > January 2009 >> Hello James >> You may like to have a go at actually using SpeakOn - a lot has >> changed since the early days. This version is a big step in usability >> compared to early versions and one own music is for the first time >> handled > properly. >> Foobar2000 has some overlap with what SpeakOn can do - namely music >> but there is a lot which is not overlapping at all. >> It will probably take you a good week going through the manual to take >> a full advantage of what SpeakOn can offer. >> There are people using it for everything other are using it for some >> types of media, it is modular; you can choose what you want to use >> (and not at all if you wish). >> Regards >> Isaac >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of James Scholes >> Sent: 31 January 2009 15:09 >> To: Isaac Porat >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Announcement - New SpeakOn features release >> 30 January 2009 >> Hi Isaac, >> This will be my last message on this subject, however I will say that >> most of the features I would use in SpeakOn I already have in >> Foobar2000. Again this is just my personal opinion, and I'm definately >> not saying that Foobar can do as much as SpeakOn. But I'm saying for >> me, Foobar2000 will always be much better than SpeakOn. >> -----Original Message----- >> Sent by Isaac Porat on Saturday, January 31, 2009 at 09:50 AM >> I will not repeat the points in Steve's reply. >> Netbooks are great (I use one myself) they are cheap because a lot of >> shortcuts have been taken in their design. Granted, they are probably >> as powerful as a top laptop of five years ago but software is now a >> lot heavier as well. >> It is not only about disk space; it is cheap it is a lot about other >> resources as well. >> So the SpeakOn installer is 3.7Mb expanded to 10 Mb iTunes is about 57 >> Mb expanded to over 200 Mb. Can SpeakOn do everything that iTunes can >> do? Of course not for a start it does not handle video and does not >> rip or burn CDs. It has no store either. However it can do many other >> things that other players can not do for example handle Daisy and >> eText publications Last.FM music www.last.fm which is the biggest >> jukebox in the world and its radio facility uses the Radio Time >> database which is one of the finest there is www.radiotime.com Also >> efficient skipping, Remembering where you left off and bookmarking is >> built in. >> So not everything for everybody but plenty for some. >> Regards >> Isaac >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Steve Dryden >> Sent: 30 January 2009 21:52 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Announcement - New SpeakOn features release >> 30 January 2009 >> Um... I think not... have you seen a netbook with 4 or 8 GB RAM, Dual >> cor or quad core processor with a dedicated audio and graphics card >> along with shall we say, a 320 or 500 GB hard drive. I think possibly >> not the top end laptops which nowadays are quite comparrible with >> their desktop counterparts. Low end and even, the odd middle range >> laptop maybe. >> I think the comment was quite logical really. If you do a lot of >> searching and checking out yes, you can get some very good netbooks >> but remember, they are designed to be portable and reliable, they are >> not designed to be replacements for a high performance laptop. >> Some of the netbooks with low capacity drives are actually solid state >> drives and therefore will be extremely fast as access time is reduced. >> Steve >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Scholes" <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: "Isaac Porat" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:27 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Announcement - New SpeakOn features release >> 30 January 2009 >>> Hi, >>> I wonder why you wrote the following: >>> "making it ideal for use with netbooks" >>> Netbooks these days are as powerful as low and middle end laptops, or >>> even high-end laptops if you upgrade some components like the RAM. >>> People still seem to be stuck in 2008 when netbooks had 256 MB of RAM >>> and a 4 GB hard drive. >>> Also, a note about SpeakOn, let me know if anyone uses it >>> successfully, its always been painfully slow for me and pretty much >>> useless compared to Winamp, Foobar2000, or especially Klango. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> Sent by Isaac Porat on Friday, January 30, 2009 at 05:23 AM >>> Hello All, >>> A new features release of SpeakOn 2.1, 30 January 2009 is now available. >>> In this version, the user interface has been simplified and improved. >>> New features have been added for playing your music. You can now >>> quickly and easily play folders, combine a number of folders and >>> individual files for immediate play in your own playlists which can >>> be easily edited. The media library is now expandable and podcast >>> support has been improved. >>> For those who are new to SpeakOn, it is a self-voicing software >>> environment for finding, retrieving and playing audio and text media. >>> All media local to your computer or remote on the internet is >>> presented in the same simple tree-like structure. You can navigate >>> to the media you want, select it and it is automatically downloaded >>> or streamed and played in the same SpeakOn player which handles both >>> audio and text. Common audio formats are supported including MP3, >>> WMA and Real. You can either operate SpeakOn using a standard >>> keyboard or an external low cost numerical keypad using one hand from >>> the comfort of your armchair. SpeakOn has a low footprint (the >>> installer is only >>> 3.7 Mb) making it ideal for use with Netbooks. >>> SpeakOn is available free from: >>> www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm >>> This page contains information about SpeakOn, links to the download >>> page, manual and mailing list. >>> In the simplified user interface both Player and Library controls >>> have been combined in one task. User interaction involves mainly >>> operating these two controls with a minimum number of keys, tabbing >>> between these control as necessary. All operations are also >>> available from the menu - useful for newbies. The function keys are >>> used to adjust audio and speech as well as getting context sensitive >>> (new) media information and help. >>> For an overview and comparison between Windows and the SpeakOn user >>> interface see: >>> http://www.a-technic.net/SpeakOn/docs/SpeakOn/ht/SpeakOn-r-0101.htm >>> The 'What's new' page is at: >>> http://www.a-technic.net/SpeakOn/docs/SpeakOn/ht/SpeakOn-r-0079.htm >>> Instructions for upgrading from an older version are at: >>> http://www.a-technic.net/SpeakOn/docs/SpeakOn/ht/SpeakOn-r-0103.htm >>> The download page for new users is at: >>> http://www.a-technic.net/SpeakOn/docs/SpeakOn/ht/SpeakOn-r-0016.htm >>> If you experience slow download, this is probably because of demand >>> for this new version so you may like to try again in a day or so. >>> The manual is at: >>> http://www.a-technic.net/SpeakOn/docs/SpeakOn/ht/SpeakOn.htm >>> The new context media information keys are explained here: >>> http://www.a-technic.net/SpeakOn/docs/SpeakOn/ht/SpeakOn-s-0009.htm >>> The new music features are explained here: >>> http://www.a-technic.net/SpeakOn/docs/SpeakOn/ht/SpeakOn-s-0012.htm >>> Improvements in podcast support are explained here: >>> http://www.a-technic.net/SpeakOn/docs/SpeakOn/ht/SpeakOn-s-0013.htm >>> Enjoy - and if you like SpeakOn, please forward this announcement to >>> any mailing lists, blogs or bulletin boards you feel are relevant. >>> Regards, >>> Isaac >>> Isaac Porat >>> SpeakOn's author >>> email: speakon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Website: http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> __________ NOD32 3811 (20090129) Information __________ >>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>> http://www.eset.com >>> -- >>> Check out my radio and TeamTalk server! http://www.jls-radio.com >>> -- >>> James Scholes >>> E-mail: james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> MSN/Windows Live Messenger: jamesscholes@xxxxxxx >>> AIM: JamesScholes000 >>> Skype: james.scholes >>> Website: http://www.jamesscholes.com >>> Blog: http://www.jamesscholes.com/blog >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jamesscholes >>> Find me on Facebook! 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