[access-uk] Re: Accessible or not accessible? (Was: Really good, accessible web sites.)

  • From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 15:09:43 +0100

Fair enough Stev, and yes Window-Eyes does make quite a good job of the front 
page for that site.  Once you are in there its another story.  Hardly any of 
the links show up.  Its a very graphics intensive site and it seems to work on 
the assumption that pictures tell everything.  Its designed with a mind set 
that by default excludes those who need textual information.

Going off a bit at a tangent here, it seems all too easy these days to think in 
a way that excludes us on purely aesthetic grounds.  I think there is some 
tenuous link with the recent thread about BBC2 banning voice-over when foreign 
languages are being used.  Its as if the spoken word, or text adornments in the 
case of the offending Habitat website are somehow seen as being beyond the 
paleartistically.

It seems our needs are simply bad taste. 
Ray

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nutt" 

| Hi Tink,
| 
| OK, I am not sure what you couldn't access here in the way of information.
| I appreciate what George said about the pictures etc, but not being my kind
| of web site, I am wondering what you are looking for.
| 
| But let's take the example of the countries.  This is where JAWS falls down
| badly with Flash.  JAWS is no good at reading links in Flash, unless they
| are labeled in a certain way.  Here is how Window-Eyes presented the
| countries to me:-
| 
| uk/main_uk.htm
| france/main_france.htm
| germany/main_germany.htm
| spain/main_spain.htm
| belgium.htm
| greece.htm
| iceland.htm
| belgium.htm
| portugal.htm
| thailand.htm
| eire.htm
| 
| I noticed that Belgium is on there twice, but apart from that, what is wrong
| with that?  The only thing that is wrong is that the links are not labelled.
| Now I haven't tried this with JAWS yet to be honest, but I have noticed that
| it doesn't read flash links particularly well on some web sites, but the
| names of the HTM files make it obvious in this case.
| 
| In my very quick look at the web site, I could also search for products, but
| I didn't know what to search for.  What I didn't try to do, was to browse a
| catalogue or anything like that.
| 
| So is this web site inacessible?  I would say no, just difficult to use.
| But some would probably disagree with me, but hey, that's OK <Smile>.
| 
| Keep 'em coming Tink, that was a goodly one.
| 
| All the best
| --
| Computer Room Services:  the long cane for blind computer users.


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