I would much prefer we used our forum, if you turn notifications on “instant”
you’ll get notified as quickly as an email notification.
Witch
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On 25 Jun 2020, at 14:21, Michael Colby (Redacted sender "michael.colby82"
for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So, it looks like we are leaning towards the squad forum pages being the
primary routine resource for our communications, including the capture of our
administration, policy and knowledge base as terms of reference, whilst
keeping the e-mail group facility going, mostly for a more immediate alert
and awareness style function.
Who is currently administering our squad forum site? Is it Dutch, or is
anyone else involved?
Happy landings,
Talisman
On Thursday, 25 June 2020, 11:53:05 BST, Rob <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I was in a rush when I last posted as I was heading out for some really nice
evening waves so did not give a full answer :-)
What I would suggest is that the forum gets used for anything that might get
a reply or needs a reply PLUS gets copied to email but NOBODY replies by
email. The email is just to let people see there is a new topic on the
forum that they can reply on or that requires an answer ASAP. A bit like
when 1C post about a new patch release then tell you to go elsewhere to
discuss it. It is probably still OK to post 'Sorry cannot make it' messages
straight to email and bypass the forum. There are a few grey areas but we
can use common sense to avoid too much pointless comms on the email.
Rob
On Thursday, 25 June 2020, 07:58:17 BST, klem56 <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I agree with Rob. IMHO there are often brief exchanges where the forum would
be overkill. I see the forum as more of a knowledge base/exchange.
klem
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On 24/06/2020 18:12, Rob (Redacted sender robinhj for DMARC) wrote:
I would say keep the email but purely for announcements and other time
sensitive subjects
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 12:17, Michael Colby
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Gents,
Looks like it could be time to give our squad forum a go again.
Do we want to discontinue our e-mail group, so that we don't have
duplication, or do folks want to keep both?
My thoughts are that if enough folks don't want to continue using the e-mail
group facility, then we should move over completely to just the forum, rather
than have 2 systems running.
Count me out of any Discord arrangements though.
I am content with the current e-mail arrangements, but am willing to give the
forum a go.
Happy landings,
Talisman
On Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 10:35:48 BST, Rob <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
The problem with expecting us to put headers on our emails so we can filter
them is that many of us, including me, just hit 'reply' and sometimes the
actual matter being discussed no longer relates to the header. The forum is
ideal. I check several every day and it is easy to ignore subjects that have
no interest to me or that were interesting initially but then wandered off
track. That leaves the problem I mentioned earlier though, if we don't use
it then it soon gets ignored. I am not sure we can use a forum
alongside email unless we have a strict rule that email is only
for important announcements and any discussion of it goes to the forum.
For immediate notification that someone is going online then WhatsApp is best
for me. I get a notification light on my phone and can ignore that or check
WhatsApp and ignore what I see... or go online. I would rather not use
Facebook as I try to avoid getting sucked in to all the crap on it (again)
Roblex
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 8:21, klem56
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I made comment a few weeks ago about the flood of squad emails on various
subjects so I get the point.
Surely our own existing forum (see under my sig) is the answer. I receive
emails whenever a new post has been made and I can choose whether to go and
look at it or not. Similarly I can recognise the email for what it is and
simply delete it if it isn't of interest, I don't have to read all the long
emails. Immediate need-to-know info about, say, this week's squad night or
other more immediate info can still be passed by email. It has proved to be
very effective, if sometimes drowning in a particular issue. We could use
Whatsapp but not everyone will want it. I have it for family and a museum
lockdown group from which I know it will quickly be drowned in topics which
are not so easy to track on a small device but the lockdown group only use it
for jokes and clips. We use Skype to talk to eachother every week and I send
mass emails to volunteers as our primary simple means of communication.
If we feel the need for immediate e-mail notification we can put our email on
our mobile too. I have three museum email addresses on mine although I use
them as 'alerts' so that I know I have emails to deal with on my PC. Once
I've dealt with them (or know there is something to be dealt with) I delete
them from my phone.
There is another weapon in our email clients: message filters. If we agreed
on a subject pattern, e.g. 56_VR [plus any other data], 56_KOTH [...] etc we
could create a filter in our email clients to send the emails whose subject
contains 56_VR to a particular local folder, e.g. 56_VR or even delete it if
it's not of interest. Actually I already do that manually for long running
emails like VR that I want to keep. It would only be worthwhile where a
subject is long running and someone asks for a header to be used and we'd
need each to create a folder for each one but it's something I do all the
time to manage some of our stuff and a lot of museum matters. But perhaps our
forum is a better idea once it's clear that a subject needs some elbow room.
Like some of you I find Discord chat very cumbersome whilst TS a very direct
and easily managed comms system and, after all, that is all we want it for. I
suppose Discord is attractive to people who want to run their entire on-line
group activities there.
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On 23/06/2020 15:13, Lee Fisher (Redacted sender l.fisher for DMARC) wrote:
Facebook or what’s app work well for immediacy and scrolling to see messages
etc, and you can set FB up with a “separate” email address easily enough.
Witch
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On 23 Jun 2020, at 15:07, André Degen <degen.andre@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks for the answers so far, they are very much appreciated. I just wanted
to clarify two things.
- I didn't suggest Discord to replace TeamSpeak in any way. I'm very happy
with TS and totally agree that it's way ahead of Discord in voice
functionality.
- Concerning Discord (or any other online service) stealing you personal
information: You can make an account with a burner email (e.g.
10minuteemail) and give out false credentials. I haven't done this, but it
is an option if that concerns you.
If anyone has other suggestions (e.g. WhatsApp, Telegram, etc.), I'm all
ears.
Now I'll be quiet again and wait for more of your answers ;)
Keks
Am Di., 23. Juni 2020 um 15:25 Uhr schrieb Rob <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
I fully agree with Keks that the email list can be chaotic. It can also be
impossible to get a timely response when needed. I also agree that it would
be very useful to have some way of knowing that one of us has gone online to
fly so we could decide to join them or just ignore it. When we played CLoD
on Steam then you could leave your Friends list up at the side of the screen
and see who was in
CLoD at any moment and it was up to you whether you joined them or not.
Unfortunately I don't think Discord is the answer. I have Discord and I
belong to about a dozen groups on it but I just don't like it. As a chat
history I find it as chaotic as our email list and as a comms app it is
vastly inferior to Teamspeak. I know many of our group will never use any
new-fangled apps on a phone but if three or four people want to use Twitter
or Whatsapp or Messenger etc to send out a notification to a group saying
they are about to fly then I am happy to subscribe. Personally I tend to
have Whatsapp running all day as my family uses it but I can make sure other
ones are running. I don't leave Discord on because I just get
notifications constantly and it drives me crazy so I just pop in to check
things then log out. There are also many new apps using very strong end to
end encryption that have groups etc.
As for 'Threads' or conversations on discreet subjects, that is probably
best done on a Forum but the few times we have set one up nobody has used
it. You need a certain volume of traffic to make them work. If you post
something and get one response in the following week then you stop posting
and if you check to see if someone has made a new post and see that nothing
has been posted for a week then you stop checking which in turn means you
don't answer any new posts so they stop posting etc etc... :-) It might
still work if the forum emails you whenever there is a new post but I don't
think any of the free ones do.
Roblex
On Tuesday, 23 June 2020, 11:55:05 BST, Lee Fisher
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Someone alert the villagers to get their pitchforks, there’s someone
suggesting change! Change I tell you! Nothing good will come of that
Hehehe
Good luck keks but the pterodactyl’s will have something to say about this,
Russian spies, Chinese infiltration, 5G causes invisible planes etc etc
Witch
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On 23 Jun 2020, at 11:29, André Degen <degen.andre@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello to all of you
I would like to suggest an idea of mine. When I joined this group and was
getting trained up by Talisman (thanks a lot btw., I always had a blast :)
), we also talked about communication with the group and that we use this
mailing system.
For me it has been a rather mixed bag so far.
My main issues are:
- I find it really hard to follow conversations in this jungle of
different email-threads.
- It also completely floods my email inbox with a lot of mails that don't
really concern me (e.g. VR-stuff), because every mail is literally a "mail
to all".
- If I search for something it is also rather cumbersome to find the email
that I'm looking for.
- Maybe this is just me, but I only check on my emails maybe twice a week.
So I also miss a lot of the conversations.
So I was thinking if it would be possible to organise a Discord Server for
us.
A few of the benefits:
- You could have a channel specific for certain topics.
- If you're not interested in a certain topic, you can just mute that
channel.
- When you want to search for a certain conversation, just look in the
corresponding channel.
- You can direct message people.
- If you want, you can look for people to play with spontaneously (if they
decide to show their
online/offline status).
- It would also free up our Email-inboxes.
There are a lot more positives from my point of view but I don't want to
drag this email out even longer. I can go more into detail if anyone
wishes to know more.
Now Talisman already mentioned that he is not a fan of Discord at all.
I respect his opinion, but it is only one of many, so I wanted to present
this to all of you to hopefully get an objective conversation started.
To a hopefully soon freed-up inbox. ;)
Greetings, Keks
