--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Joseph Polanik <jPolanik@...> wrote: <snip> > > Searle says that subjective experiences such as an afterimage have an > experiencer-dependent mode of existence; so, for Searle, these are not > 'bottom line' entities. > > Does Dennett admit that subjective experiences have an experiencer- > dependent mode of existence; or, does he deny that they have any mode of > existence at all? > > Joe Dennett does not deny subjective experiences. He explains them, i.e., he provides an account of how the brain may produce them, an account which he reconciles with our sense that our experiences and our selves are uniquely unified, bottom line, etc., etc. Searle, on the other hand, falls into thinking our subjective experiences are "bottom line entities" even while denying this very thing in his account of brains. THAT is the contradiction. But since he is in contradiction and is vague about brains, he and some of his defenders can get away with comming up with references to things he has said that contradict claims I, and others, make about other things he has said. Well, of course you can do that. He makes contradictory claims! But my job is to point out the contradictions, not defend them or suggest he is consistent when he isn't. -- SWM ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/