Actually, rather than lumping, it is more the belief that Spotted Owl should be split into at least 2 separate species. "Pacific" Spotted Owl and "Mexican" Spotted Owl. If you check a range map, the two populations are geographically separated and, on most audio CDs, the two subspecies are recorded separately. The two subspecies live in different habitats, have different breeding and foraging behaviors and don't even sound the same. To top it off, from both living in AZ all summer and talking to people there, I would have a hard time believing that "Mexican" Spotted Owl is even endangered. It doesn't appear to have anywhere near the difficulties that "Pacific" Spotted Owl does. So with that, IMHO, "Mexican" and "Pacific" Spotted Owls should be split to separate species. Note that I haven't done the legwork or research needed to split these two, it's just my opinion on the subject. I almost wonder whether the same could be applied to Northern and Southern populations of Barred Owl? The two populations are not geographically separated, and I know far less about the eastern BAOW population but it is something interesting to think about. Happy Birding! --Chris W, Richland County http://swallowtailedkite.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/swallowtailphoto "The beauty and genius of a work of art may be reconceived, though its first material expression be destroyed; a vanished harmony may yet again inspire the composer; but when the last individual of a race of living things breathes no more, another heaven and another earth must pass before such a one can be again." (From William Beebe's "The Bird: Its Form and Function," 1906) > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:40:37 -0600 > Subject: [wisb] Re: barred owls VS spotted owls > From: jreichhoff@xxxxxxxxx > To: jbahls@xxxxxxxxxxxx > CC: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Maybe if we just combined the two species as one, the Sparred Owl, we > wouldn't have this problem. > > Joey Reichhoff > Fond du Lac > > On 12/10/09, Jeffrey Bahls <jbahls@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> controversial plan >> http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OWL_VS_OWL?SITE=WIMIL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATEÞFAULT >> Jeff Bahls >> Lowell Wi >> Dodge county >> >> >> #################### >> You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding >> Network (Wisbirdn). >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >> //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. >> To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >> //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. >> Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn. >> >> >> > #################### > You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding > Network (Wisbirdn). > To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. > To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. > Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn. > > #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn.