Ryan, when I viewed Nick's photos of the bird alone I had no question of ID. However I was a bit uneasy when looking at your gallery because this bird is so big-nearly the size of the Dunlin. I thought why couldn't it be a White-romped? Several factors point away from this. The primary projection doesn't look long enough. The wing tips should extend well beyond the tail. With a slight breeze they often ruffle and stand straight up they are so long. I don't get that impression on this bird. Also a White-rumped should have a distinct pale base to the lower mandible. This bird has a black bill. This bird also lacks the distinctive black streaks on the flanks. The bill also suggests Western-fairly long and with a distinct droop but not quite as long as the Dunlin or a Curlew Sandpiper would show. A basic Dunlin would be much grayer. Did you or Nick see the bird fly to check the rump? Great photos and an interesting one to ponder. To me all appearances suggest Western but I'm not sure on the size. Mark Korducki, New Berlin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Brady" <ryanbrady10@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 12:10 AM Subject: [wisb] Re: Western Sandpiper photos > > Hey folks, a very knowledgeable out-of-state birder has intelligently > challenged the identification of this bird on the Wisconsin Birding > facebook page. Everyone take a closer look. Discussion welcome and > encouraged. This may be my biggest blunder in recent memory. > > > > > Ryan Brady > Washburn, Bayfield County, WI > http://www.pbase.com/rbrady > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: ryanbrady10@xxxxxxxxxxx >> To: ashlandbirders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Western Sandpiper photos >> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 19:41:42 -0600 >> >> >> Here's a gallery of 8 photos of the Western Sandpiper in Ashland this >> morning. Awesome bird to study. >> >> >> http://www.pbase.com/rbrady/wesa2012 >> >> >> >> If you have time for only a few, try these: >> >> >> >> http://www.pbase.com/rbrady/image/143555364 >> >> http://www.pbase.com/rbrady/image/143555359 >> >> http://www.pbase.com/rbrady/image/143555366 >> >> >> >> It was a very shorebirdy day in Ashland. Good numbers of individuals, >> lots of diversity. Birds were moving all the place amidst heavy rain >> throughout much of day. >> >> >> >> >> >> Ryan Brady >> Washburn, Bayfield County, WI >> http://www.pbase.com/rbrady #################### > You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin > Birding Network (Wisbirdn). > To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn > To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn > Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn > > > #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn