[windows2000] Re: HP printers and Windows Server 2003 [Solved]
- From: "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:37:34 +0200
Did some Tweaking(tm). The Laserjet 4000 PS-driver works excellent with the
printer mentioned, a HP Laserjet P2055DN. I can get up to 1200dpi with
Prores and the driver even sees the duplexer properly.
I feel very satisfied with myself right now. 8-)
--
/Sorin
>-----Original Message-----
>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-
>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sorin Srbu
>Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:12 PM
>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [windows2000] Re: HP printers and Windows Server 2003 [Solved]
>
>Removed the old UPD based queue on the win2k3 server and recreated it with
>the built-in Laserjet 2000-driver instead. Single-sided and duplex printing
>now works as expected. Only disadvantage is that the printrez is 300x300dpi
>(and only that) at the moment. Some more tweaking, with other drivers,
might
>unlock at least the 600x600 printing resolution. For all practical reasons
I
>can live with this, for now. 8-)
>
>Thx for wasting all this time for me HP...
>
>Thx Greg+list for the feedback!
>
>--
>/Sorin
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-
>>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sorin Srbu
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:46 AM
>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: HP printers and Windows Server 2003
>>
>>I normally buy HP original toner for all our dozen or so printers, none of
>>which are now the same model, so I don't think I'll have a problem with
>>toners not being the same type. The cheaper refill toners I've tried have
>>been somewhat of a disappointment, especially since our university has a
>>discount from HP on supplies and hardware.
>>
>>Anyway, I'll look into Oki some more and see what the boss says...
>>
>>Thx for your input!
>>
>>--
>>/Sorin
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-
>>>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
>>>Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 5:23 PM
>>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: HP printers and Windows Server 2003
>>>
>>>the only catch I could find with Oki is that you have to buy oki toner
and
>>not refills.
>>>their toner is different than other lasers. they also separate the toner
>>from the drum.
>>>that is the main reason the toner is cheaper. you only have to replace
>the
>>drum
>>>about every three or four toners.
>>>
>>>www.compudirect.net has a pretty good explanation of why the Oki toner is
>>different.
>>>Basically, it is a low heat toner that melts at a lower temp than others.
>>>
>>>http://compudirect.net/oki/okidata_toner_is_special.htm
>>>
>>>I also think they are still living down a bad reputation they earned in
>the
>>late 90's/early
>>>2000's when they stuff was poor quality.
>>>
>>>they are really LED printers and not Laser from a technical standpoint.
>>>
>>>http://compudirect.net/oki/led_versus_laser.htm
>>>
>>>this all started for me back when HP changed from the 4000 to the 4100.
>We
>>had
>>>4000s deployed all over the place and then needed more and couldn't get
>>them.
>>>They had been replaced by the 4100. So we bought a bunch of those only
to
>>find out
>>>the toners were compatible between the two. I got pissed and started
>>buying the
>>>Oki's. it worked out really well for us. I could also take their low
end
>>unit and plug
>>>then straight to a PC. as needs changed, i could add a network card and
>an
>>extra
>>>papertray and have a nice workgroup device. I couldn't do that with the
>>HP1100's
>>>we were buying as personal printers at the time.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Oki, huh? Would the Oki 6000-series roughly be the same thing as the
>>>Xerox
>>> 3600-series or HP Laserjet 4300-series in terms of speed and stuff?
>>>
>>> I'm going to assume the Oki 6000-series are real network printers,
>>not
>>>some
>>> crappy disguised host-based/GDI junk, right?
>>>
>>> Just checked the OKI B6250DN. Seems a likely candidate. Apparently
>>>it's got a
>>> complete PCL/PS support, something that to me sings "no GDI". It's
>>>pretty
>>> cheap as well. There's got to be a catch somewhere... 8-/
>>>
>>> --
>>> /Sorin
>>>
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-
>>>
>>> >bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
>>> >Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 4:39 PM
>>> >To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> >Subject: [windows2000] Re: HP printers and Windows Server 2003
>>> >
>>> >I have had nothing but trouble with Xerox everywhere i have been in
>>>my
>>> >career. 14
>>> >years now, every place i have been with Xerox has had trouble. My
>>>last job
>>> >was at a
>>> >Hospital and we hada dedicated Xerox employee in house who's sole
>>>job was to
>>> >run
>>> >around fixing our Xerox printers and copiers. they jammed, they
>>>broke, parts
>>> >always
>>> >needed replacing and one actually caught fire. Users hated them
>>and
>>>we spent
>>> >a
>>> >fortune on them.
>>> >
>>> >HP was always been the workhorse but my grief with them is that
>>>every time
>>> >they
>>> >change models (even withing the same "family") none of the supplies
>>>are
>>> >compatible. then there are the driver issues everyone seems to
>>have
>>>with
>>> >them.
>>> >they've had driver issues since the NT 4 days and they still have
>>>problems
>>> >today.
>>> >
>>> >I generally buy Oki printers these days when I can. The units are
>>>usually
>>> >cheaper to
>>> >begin with. Supplies are usually cheaper too and they remain
>>>consistent
>>> >among the
>>> >same "family". So the 6000, 6100, 6200 all take the same toner and
>>>drum.
>>> >Users
>>> >also don't have to do some funky slide maneuver to change toner
>>>either. It
>>> >lifts
>>> >straight up and straight down. The drivers and firmware has never
>>>given me
>>> >trouble
>>> >either. We had them on our nurses stations and our nurses never
>>>managed to
>>> >break them. Nurses can break anything.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Sorin Srbu
>>><sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > Looking for recommendations basically.
>>> >
>>> > We have a new HP Laserjet P2055DN that just won't play nice
>>>with our
>>> > Win2k3-based printer server. After having searched the 'net
>>and
>>>HP's
>>> >support
>>> > site for a couple of hours, I've now found that the reason
>>for this is
>>>most
>>> > likely HP's (host-based) Universal Printer Driver and the
>>fact that
>>>the
>>> >2055DN
>>> > is a GDI-printer in disguise. In any case, it's just plain
>>buggy and
>>>slow
>>> >when
>>> > connected to the network and the printer server.
>>> >
>>> > Connected over a usb-cable, it prints fast and nice,
>>although it
>>>can't
>>> >print
>>> > single-sided documents for some reason, it prints duplex
>>>whatever
>>> >setting I
>>> > set... Flashed it to no avail... 8-/
>>> >
>>> > So, would you guys have any recommendations on what to buy,
>>>that is
>>> >an
>>> > honest-to-god real network printer like HP *used* to be
>>five-six
>>>years
>>> >ago?
>>> >
>>> > I've heard Xerox is supposedly pretty good and that they
>>normally
>>>don't
>>> >have
>>> > this silly hidden host-based junk like most all HP have
>>nowadays.
>>>But
>>> >what
>>> > model should I look into you think?
>>> >
>>> > Hints and recommendations appreciated! Thanks.
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