[windows2000] Re: HP printers and Windows Server 2003
- From: "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:45:43 +0200
I normally buy HP original toner for all our dozen or so printers, none of
which are now the same model, so I don't think I'll have a problem with
toners not being the same type. The cheaper refill toners I've tried have
been somewhat of a disappointment, especially since our university has a
discount from HP on supplies and hardware.
Anyway, I'll look into Oki some more and see what the boss says...
Thx for your input!
--
/Sorin
>-----Original Message-----
>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-
>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
>Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 5:23 PM
>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [windows2000] Re: HP printers and Windows Server 2003
>
>the only catch I could find with Oki is that you have to buy oki toner and
not refills.
>their toner is different than other lasers. they also separate the toner
from the drum.
>that is the main reason the toner is cheaper. you only have to replace the
drum
>about every three or four toners.
>
>www.compudirect.net has a pretty good explanation of why the Oki toner is
different.
>Basically, it is a low heat toner that melts at a lower temp than others.
>
>http://compudirect.net/oki/okidata_toner_is_special.htm
>
>I also think they are still living down a bad reputation they earned in the
late 90's/early
>2000's when they stuff was poor quality.
>
>they are really LED printers and not Laser from a technical standpoint.
>
>http://compudirect.net/oki/led_versus_laser.htm
>
>this all started for me back when HP changed from the 4000 to the 4100. We
had
>4000s deployed all over the place and then needed more and couldn't get
them.
>They had been replaced by the 4100. So we bought a bunch of those only to
find out
>the toners were compatible between the two. I got pissed and started
buying the
>Oki's. it worked out really well for us. I could also take their low end
unit and plug
>then straight to a PC. as needs changed, i could add a network card and an
extra
>papertray and have a nice workgroup device. I couldn't do that with the
HP1100's
>we were buying as personal printers at the time.
>
>
>On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
>
> Oki, huh? Would the Oki 6000-series roughly be the same thing as the
>Xerox
> 3600-series or HP Laserjet 4300-series in terms of speed and stuff?
>
> I'm going to assume the Oki 6000-series are real network printers,
not
>some
> crappy disguised host-based/GDI junk, right?
>
> Just checked the OKI B6250DN. Seems a likely candidate. Apparently
>it's got a
> complete PCL/PS support, something that to me sings "no GDI". It's
>pretty
> cheap as well. There's got to be a catch somewhere... 8-/
>
> --
> /Sorin
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-
>
> >bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
> >Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 4:39 PM
> >To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >Subject: [windows2000] Re: HP printers and Windows Server 2003
> >
> >I have had nothing but trouble with Xerox everywhere i have been in
>my
> >career. 14
> >years now, every place i have been with Xerox has had trouble. My
>last job
> >was at a
> >Hospital and we hada dedicated Xerox employee in house who's sole
>job was to
> >run
> >around fixing our Xerox printers and copiers. they jammed, they
>broke, parts
> >always
> >needed replacing and one actually caught fire. Users hated them
and
>we spent
> >a
> >fortune on them.
> >
> >HP was always been the workhorse but my grief with them is that
>every time
> >they
> >change models (even withing the same "family") none of the supplies
>are
> >compatible. then there are the driver issues everyone seems to
have
>with
> >them.
> >they've had driver issues since the NT 4 days and they still have
>problems
> >today.
> >
> >I generally buy Oki printers these days when I can. The units are
>usually
> >cheaper to
> >begin with. Supplies are usually cheaper too and they remain
>consistent
> >among the
> >same "family". So the 6000, 6100, 6200 all take the same toner and
>drum.
> >Users
> >also don't have to do some funky slide maneuver to change toner
>either. It
> >lifts
> >straight up and straight down. The drivers and firmware has never
>given me
> >trouble
> >either. We had them on our nurses stations and our nurses never
>managed to
> >break them. Nurses can break anything.
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Sorin Srbu
><sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Looking for recommendations basically.
> >
> > We have a new HP Laserjet P2055DN that just won't play nice
>with our
> > Win2k3-based printer server. After having searched the 'net
and
>HP's
> >support
> > site for a couple of hours, I've now found that the reason
for this is
>most
> > likely HP's (host-based) Universal Printer Driver and the
fact that
>the
> >2055DN
> > is a GDI-printer in disguise. In any case, it's just plain
buggy and
>slow
> >when
> > connected to the network and the printer server.
> >
> > Connected over a usb-cable, it prints fast and nice,
although it
>can't
> >print
> > single-sided documents for some reason, it prints duplex
>whatever
> >setting I
> > set... Flashed it to no avail... 8-/
> >
> > So, would you guys have any recommendations on what to buy,
>that is
> >an
> > honest-to-god real network printer like HP *used* to be
five-six
>years
> >ago?
> >
> > I've heard Xerox is supposedly pretty good and that they
normally
>don't
> >have
> > this silly hidden host-based junk like most all HP have
nowadays.
>But
> >what
> > model should I look into you think?
> >
> > Hints and recommendations appreciated! Thanks.
> > --
> > BW,
> > Sorin
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