it's an old style synth. The modern preference for acapella or those other natural sounding synths is taking over. On 24 Feb 2012, at 15:45, Tim Culhane wrote: > Nop, Apparently Nuance has discontinued development ... so you'd wonder > how much longer Jaws and Window Eyes will support it? > > Tim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dónal Fitzpatrick > Sent: 24 February 2012 15:39 > To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [vicsireland] Re: configuring Word 2010 to work best with Jaws 13 > > seems like it Tim, apologies I was under the impression that there was an > Eloquence driver. > > Of course purchasing eloquence directly might be a possibility? If it is > SAPI compliant then you might be able to use it that way. However I suspect > that it will not be as responsive. > > > On 24 Feb 2012, at 15:21, Tim Culhane wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Doesn't look like it. According to the NVDA website attempts to >> develop a driver foundered due to the cost of purchasing licenses from > Nuance. >> >> I've installed NVDA, and to be honest the eSpeak synth is truly awful. >> The most charitable I can be is to say it sounds like something >> straight out of Doctor Who. >> >> Tim >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dónal >> Fitzpatrick >> Sent: 24 February 2012 12:10 >> To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: configuring Word 2010 to work best with >> Jaws 13 >> >> yeah I think there is an eloquence driver knocking about somewhere. >> Amazing how used one gets to the so-called "inferior" voice isn't it. >> On 24 Feb 2012, at 12:07, Tim Culhane wrote: >> >>> Probably worth looking at. Does it have a decent synthesiser? I'm so >>> used to eloquence I can't live with some of the Real voices. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dónal >>> Fitzpatrick >>> Sent: 24 February 2012 12:04 >>> To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: configuring Word 2010 to work best with >>> Jaws 13 >>> >>> no switching isn't open to everyone. Tim I'm hearing very good >>> things about NVDA and word recently. I've not used it, and I'm sure >>> you don't want to spend time (or probably don't have time) to learn a >>> new screenreader, but I am hearing very very good things indeed. >>> >>> Donal >>> On 24 Feb 2012, at 12:02, Tim Culhane wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Donal will try draft view. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, switching away from Windows isn't an option in my >>>> situation. >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dónal >>>> Fitzpatrick >>>> Sent: 24 February 2012 11:59 >>>> To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: configuring Word 2010 to work best with >>>> Jaws 13 >>>> >>>> Try view draft tim. Turd 2010 and jaws 12 were among the main >>>> reasons I stopped using windows. Incidentally, I'm reliably >>>> informed by sighted friends and colleagues that the ribbon bar is as >>>> awful for them as >>> for us. >>>> On 24 Feb 2012, at 11:56, Flor Lynch wrote: >>>> >>>>> Normal view. (If it exists.) >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Culhane" >>>>> <tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:29 AM >>>>> Subject: [vicsireland] configuring Word 2010 to work best with Jaws >>>>> 13 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm wondering if people have any information on what changes can >>>>>> be made to Word 2010 so that reading documents with Jaws 13 is >>>>>> as comfortable as possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've already changed the document view from print layout to >>>>>> outline layout. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, When arrowing down in a document I keep having problems >>>>>> with Jaws saying blank or nothing at all when moving from one line >>>>>> to the >>>> next. >>>>>> Arrowing back up and down again usually fixes this, but it is >>>>>> very annoying to have to constantly do this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any tips for best results with word 2010 much appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Note I'm running Jaws and 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