[vicsireland] Re: Review of Broadcasting Access Rules

  • From: RobbieS <robbiesin@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:23:04 +0000

Hi Gerry,

Sorry to be so brief but I don't have the time to research tat the moment.

I have given hapter and verse to RTÉ in my complaints against thejm (for
what it's worth).

Apart from the usual 26-38 of the Disability Act, there is also, specific
to RTÉ and other broadcasters, sections 53 and 54 of the same Act which
apply specifically to Public Sector Broadcasters.

Either way, it is obvious - and RTÉ have admitted so - that RTÉ are in
breech of the Sectoral Plans to date [which I have read in full + updates]
- but they seem to think that only those with money behind them matter.

Are  they right?

Robbie

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Gerry Ellis <
gerry.ellis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi,****
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> What legal obligations? RTE neither make settop boxes nor did they set
> down the specifications for settop boxes. RTE-NL set down the specs based
> on an international set of requirements, but this is separate from RTE.***
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> If you have some legal details that would help in pursuing this issue I
> would love to hear about them as they may add some leverage.****
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> Take care,****
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>
> Gerry ellis****
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> If you don’t know where you’re going,****
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> *From:* vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *RobbieS
> *Sent:* 17 December 2011 16:55
> *To:* vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> *Subject:* [vicsireland] Re: Review of Broadcasting Access Rules****
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> For the record, all credit to Pat McCarthy of the Blind Legal Alliance for
> getting the BAI to at least go through these motions.  ****
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>  ****
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> then, true to form in such matters, they wouldn't even inform him that
> they'd acceeded to his demand/request.  ****
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> RTÉ have put two fingers up to the Disability Act 2005 where vips are
> concerned.****
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> For instance, they claim that:****
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> a). it's not parctical in terms of cost *at this late stage *to have an
> accessible set-top box.  Their neglect of the matter in the first place has
> led to this situation, but there will probably be no accountability for
> this flagrant breech ot their legal obligations.****
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>  ****
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> Also, RTÉ claim that they couldn't meet the niggardly 1% target for
> audio-description because they couldn't find companies in ireland to do it
> - as if they couldn't do an in-house job if they were really serious about
> it.  ****
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> Come to think of it, wouldn't an in-house job be cheeper, with no
> tendering process or profit-margin required?****
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>  ****
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> Up the BLA,****
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>  ****
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> Robbie****
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> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:45 PM, GERARD SHANAHAN <gershan@xxxxxx> wrote:**
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> Mark, I'm so disappointed, talk about splitting hairsIt reminds me of a
> friend who hired a prosperous electrical contractor to fit a door bell:  1
> supervisor, 1 bell fitter and 2 men to put in 12 feet of electrical cable
> and connect the bell to the bell push.....No wonder nothing gets done in
> this country Comre, BAI, R.T.E. NETWORKS, SOARVIEW, EVERYONE IS DOING
> SOMETHING BUT NO ONE TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR NICHE PROBLEM SOLVING.
> Shouldn't we send a submission to comreg on accessibility of
> technology...This could turn into a debate and the digital change over will
> have taken place before we even get an acknowledgement of submission.
> regards confounded, confused and deluded Gerry
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Magennis" <Mark.magennis@xxxxxxx>
> To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:21 AM
> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Review of Broadcasting Access Rules****
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> Gerry,
>
> Set top boxes are not covered by the access rules. The Access Rules only
> cover content access services - audio description, subtitling, and sign
> language. In fact, the BAI itself is only concerned with television
> content. Technical aspects of broadcasting and networks are under the remit
> of ComReg.
>
> Mark
>
> On 14 Dec 2011, at 21:41, GERARD SHANAHAN wrote:****
>
> Gerry, B.A.I.  have provided documentation on access for consultation on
> www.bai.ie/?page_id=2006 I've just downloaded them but haven't read them
> yet maybe other people should have a look and make submissions before
> closing date.  Do you know if the topic of accessible set top boxes is
> within the parameters?  Gerry
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Ellis" <
> gerry.ellis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:47 PM
> Subject: [vicsireland] Review of Broadcasting Access Rules
>
> ****
>
> Hi,
>
> These Access Rules are set by the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland, but
> are
> given statutory strength through the Sectoral Plans of the Disability Act.
> The old plans required 2% of Audio Description and 2% of Subtitling, but
> neither of these targets were met.
>
> I think it would be great if VICS made a submission on the review either by
> itself or as part of the TV Access group.
>
> I would suggest that reference to the 21st Century Communications and Video
> Accessibility Act from the United States would be helpful as it has far
> more
> ambitious targets than anything that is likely to come from the BAI itself.
>
> See details of the call for submissions at:
> http://www.emara.org/news/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7054
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>
> Take care,
>
> Gerry ellis
>
> If you don't know where you're going,
> How will you know when you get there?
>
> ****
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