[vicsireland] Re: Review of Broadcasting Access Rules
- From: "Gerry Ellis" <gerry.ellis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:12:33 -0000
Hi, Robbie,
Last Thursday, as part of the RTEAudience Council, I met both the Board and
the CEO of RTE. I will meet them again early in 2012.
When we met, the issue of accessibility was mentioned more than any other
issue.
I have met the staff responsible in this area and I believe that they are
committed and that they produce output that is far superior to the norm in
the U. S., although they produce far less of it.
It is my personal opinion that we are far behind where we should be in terms
of quantity, but that the people on the ground want to make the right
decisions. A sledge hammer at CEO or Board level will not produce the
desired result, but a reasoned yet insistent engagement will.
Once the technical issues that are holding back progress are addressed in
2012, I believe that good progress will be made. Where we need pressure to
be applied is the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland as they review the
Access Rules.
I hope this helps.
Take care,
Gerry ellis
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From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RobbieS
Sent: 18 December 2011 00:23
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Review of Broadcasting Access Rules
Hi Gerry,
Sorry to be so brief but I don't have the time to research tat the moment.
I have given hapter and verse to RTÉ in my complaints against thejm (for
what it's worth).
Apart from the usual 26-38 of the Disability Act, there is also, specific to
RTÉ and other broadcasters, sections 53 and 54 of the same Act which apply
specifically to Public Sector Broadcasters.
Either way, it is obvious - and RTÉ have admitted so - that RTÉ are in
breech of the Sectoral Plans to date [which I have read in full + updates] -
but they seem to think that only those with money behind them matter.
Are they right?
Robbie
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Gerry Ellis
<gerry.ellis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
What legal obligations? RTE neither make settop boxes nor did they set down
the specifications for settop boxes. RTE-NL set down the specs based on an
international set of requirements, but this is separate from RTE.
If you have some legal details that would help in pursuing this issue I
would love to hear about them as they may add some leverage.
Take care,
Gerry ellis
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How will you know when you get there?
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RobbieS
Sent: 17 December 2011 16:55
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Review of Broadcasting Access Rules
For the record, all credit to Pat McCarthy of the Blind Legal Alliance for
getting the BAI to at least go through these motions.
then, true to form in such matters, they wouldn't even inform him that
they'd acceeded to his demand/request.
RTÉ have put two fingers up to the Disability Act 2005 where vips are
concerned.
For instance, they claim that:
a). it's not parctical in terms of cost at this late stage to have an
accessible set-top box. Their neglect of the matter in the first place has
led to this situation, but there will probably be no accountability for this
flagrant breech ot their legal obligations.
Also, RTÉ claim that they couldn't meet the niggardly 1% target for
audio-description because they couldn't find companies in ireland to do it -
as if they couldn't do an in-house job if they were really serious about it.
Come to think of it, wouldn't an in-house job be cheeper, with no tendering
process or profit-margin required?
Up the BLA,
Robbie
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:45 PM, GERARD SHANAHAN <gershan@xxxxxx> wrote:
Mark, I'm so disappointed, talk about splitting hairsIt reminds me of a
friend who hired a prosperous electrical contractor to fit a door bell: 1
supervisor, 1 bell fitter and 2 men to put in 12 feet of electrical cable
and connect the bell to the bell push.....No wonder nothing gets done in
this country Comre, BAI, R.T.E. NETWORKS, SOARVIEW, EVERYONE IS DOING
SOMETHING BUT NO ONE TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR NICHE PROBLEM SOLVING.
Shouldn't we send a submission to comreg on accessibility of
technology...This could turn into a debate and the digital change over will
have taken place before we even get an acknowledgement of submission.
regards confounded, confused and deluded Gerry
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Magennis" <Mark.magennis@xxxxxxx>
To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:21 AM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Review of Broadcasting Access Rules
Gerry,
Set top boxes are not covered by the access rules. The Access Rules only
cover content access services - audio description, subtitling, and sign
language. In fact, the BAI itself is only concerned with television content.
Technical aspects of broadcasting and networks are under the remit of
ComReg.
Mark
On 14 Dec 2011, at 21:41, GERARD SHANAHAN wrote:
Gerry, B.A.I. have provided documentation on access for consultation on
www.bai.ie/?page_id=2006 I've just downloaded them but haven't read them yet
maybe other people should have a look and make submissions before closing
date. Do you know if the topic of accessible set top boxes is within the
parameters? Gerry
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Ellis"
<gerry.ellis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:47 PM
Subject: [vicsireland] Review of Broadcasting Access Rules
Hi,
These Access Rules are set by the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland, but are
given statutory strength through the Sectoral Plans of the Disability Act.
The old plans required 2% of Audio Description and 2% of Subtitling, but
neither of these targets were met.
I think it would be great if VICS made a submission on the review either by
itself or as part of the TV Access group.
I would suggest that reference to the 21st Century Communications and Video
Accessibility Act from the United States would be helpful as it has far more
ambitious targets than anything that is likely to come from the BAI itself.
See details of the call for submissions at:
http://www.emara.org/news/modules.php?name=News
<http://www.emara.org/news/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7054>
&file=article&sid=7054
Take care,
Gerry ellis
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