[torontocbm] Re: is there a database of info on protection schemes - how to copy various programs?
- From: Dan Gahlinger <dgahling@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 14:35:08 -0500
this page also has a good discussion-
http://c64preservation.com/dp.php?pg=protection
but it'd be really nice to see a database/spreadsheet of each
program/company and details on how to copy it (not necessarily the
protection internals) but enough to make a backup with nibtools.
something like; program-x tracks1-35 options -d
I have a few "archival" disks which are basically blank disks with a few
tracks of -just- the protected portions of certain programs.
like it will say use a disk nibbler, copy tracks 1-12 and 16-30 only for a
specific game.
The place I used to work at actually had a manager that used to sell those
things.
Dan.
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Joseph Palumbo <jppbm@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> There was a guy in Chicago some 4 years back that gave that
> demonstration/talk of the history of disk protection and the tools to back
> them up correctly just as you say. I can't remember his name, perhaps Lief
> or Jason Compton can get it to you... or look in the ECCC archives for the
> demo which was recorded by a few back then...
>
> --- On *Sun, 12/4/11, Dan Gahlinger <dgahling@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
> From: Dan Gahlinger <dgahling@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [torontocbm] is there a database of info on protection schemes -
> how to copy various programs?
> To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, December 4, 2011, 1:56 PM
>
>
> I'm just wondering if someone has done this yet (must be) a list of
> the protection schemes the c64 used, detailing the info on them,
>
> and/or a list of how to backup various programs (or companies) disks.
>
> especially using nibtools (.nib or .g64 files)
>
> I've long since forgotten the protection schemes and how to back them
> up, I have many originals.
>
> Like Maniac Mansion which uses rapidlok,
> Accolade Comics which has some odd protection
> Project FireStart
> Neuromancer
> Toy Bizarre
>
> and stuff like SuperKit - I don't think I've seen a decent copy of this
> anywhere
> (I have the original of all of these)
>
> I know on the c64 I'd use 21 second backup or trackmimic, burst
> nibbler, or some utility and parameters to strip the protections,
> but these are actual original disks I have and would like to preserve them.
>
> Yes, I know arnold, lemon, gbc, or newsgroups probably have cracked
> versions, or some of these could be snapshotted,
> but I'd like to preserve them as they were, in their original states.
>
> even things as basic as, I can't remember which ones used half-tracks,
> so I never know when to turn it on.
>
> My maniac mansion original as a sticky note that says use shotgun with
> density detection turned off,
> does that still apply to nibtools (-d) ?
>
> the c64 preservation society website has nibtools nov 27/2011 with a
> note talking about pirateslayer and using -pp
> but nibread doesn't seem to understand that parameter.
>
> is there such a list of nibtool information or a database that
> outlines the protections used and how to make backups?
>
> Dan.
>
>
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