Richard, You may well be right. The attached photo shows a better look at the cerci, which indicates a curved epiproct. We still have the extensive yellow on S( and S10 to consider. Thanks for your help. Any other comments will be appreciated. Harold Howell Grainger County, TN On 4/30/10 10:04 AM, "Rconnorsphoto@xxxxxxx" <Rconnorsphoto@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Harold, > I don't think the club is wide enough for Coca, not sure of range but has been > seen in TN. I'm leaning toward Ashy on these. My main id point is the shape of > cerci and epiproct, as indicated in your photos, not clearly but I think I can > make out shape. The tooth on the cerci is out toward the end, not in the > middle as for Lancet, and the epiproct (the lower appendage) is hook-type, not > straight in Lancet. Again, I'm going by Giff Beaton's illustrations. > You may be right, but I don't trust the color as much for di help unless as > bright and yellow as the one Ken C showed. I have a request in to Giff for > some id pointers on these. He said he would do so when he gets back in town > (he is indeed a nice guy). > > Richard Connors > Nashville > > > In a message dated 4/29/2010 9:29:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > howellh2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: >> am having a hard time deciding on the ID for these two clubtails. >> They were photographed three weeks apart, one on 6 April and the other on >> 27 >> April. >> >> I have done a good bit of searching on the web, and I now believe these >> photos are of Lancet Clubtails, newly emergent teneral stage. I looked at >> Lancet, Cypress, Cocoa, Ashy and Dusky Clubtails. We are definitely out of >> range for Cypress and Dusky Clubtails, so I did not look too hard at them. >> The Cocoa was the first for which I found a teneral photo. These photos >> more closely match the Cocoa, but we are probably out of the range for the >> Cocoa. I have found a teneral shot of a Lancet, but not of the Ashy. >> After >> comparing all my shots to the photos I could find, I finally decided that >> the thorax pattern more closely matched the Lancet, and the clincher is the >> extensive yellow on the sides of S9 and S10. The Ashy does not show this >> yellow marking. I did not get a good enough photo of the cerci to use that >> mark. >> >> I would appreciate your comments. >> >> Harold Howell >> Grainger County, TN >> > >
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