[THIN] Re: Windows 2003 and Office XP Licensing
- From: "Selinger, Stephen" <SSelinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:06:05 -0600
Lucas,
Thanks for the speedy reply. Maybe it is just me but I can not understand
why Micrsoft would license Office XP on a per device basis and then license
Windows 2003 which delivers the office application in a per user
configuration. It should either be one or the other. It does not make
sense that a user can connect to a server desktop from multiple devices with
a Windows 2003 per user TSCAL but can not use Microsoft Office unless they
have purchased a license for every device that they will connect from even
if that device is used for 5 minutes or every day of the year.
From what I understand it would be possible to access other non Microsoft
applications from multiple devices provided they have a per user TSCAL. It
is impossible to manage licensing in this manner as terminal services and
Citrix provide access to applications from any where and any device on the
Internet. It is pretty hard to say to a user that they can use certain non
MS applications on any device but they can only use Microsoft Office from
certain devices that are licensed for office. It would be great to purchase
a hundred Office XP per user licenses and allow the users to connect via
terminal services to these applications from any device. Am I just a
dreamer or have other people on this list struggling with this issue as
well.
I was also under the impression that certain agreements like Select 6 do not
allow for the ability to meter software. I will research this but does
anyone know if this is true. Don't take this the wrong way but I do not see
how metering avoids the issue of requiring a Office XP license for every
device that uses Office via terminal services. Please feel free to correct
me if I am mistaken. What are other companies doing to provide remote
access via terminal services and/or Citrix from the Internet in regards to
MS application licensing?
Regards,
Stephen
-----Original Message-----
From: Lucas Boyken [mailto:lboyken@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: June 26, 2003 11:32 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 and Office XP Licensing
We had similar questions on a recent install of 2000 TS (before 2003 was =
available). In our discussions with Microsoft we were told that we need = a
license available for each user that would be using that product. = I.E. we
needed to have licenses available for each instance of an office = product
running on our TS server. Instead of buying a license for every = single
employee at this company (this wasn't feasable or cost = effective), we
elected to use Metering software. You will often hear me = tout Metrix
Express Metering software. It works like a library, you = check in and out
licenses for the specfic program you want. Your user = population is
limited to the number of licenses avaible through the = metering software.
If you have 20 licenses, all in use, the 21 user is = asked to wait for the
next available license to be free. You can also = set this software up for
certain individuals to have priority or VIP = status, thus giving them a
license from someone else. Also, the = reporting in this software is great.
At the end of the day, Microsoft = wants you to buy more than you need to by
law. Metering software, = regardless if it is Metrix or not, will help you
use the law to your = advantage. I suggest you look into it.
Respectfully,
Lucas W. Boyken
Computer Systems Associates
Account Manager / Technical Representative
lboyken@xxxxxxxxx
Company Phone: 800.222.7601
Office Phone: 515.332.2751
Fax: 515.332.5687
-----Original Message-----
From: Selinger, Stephen [mailto:SSelinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:09 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Windows 2003 and Office XP Licensing
Good Morning,
I understand that Windows 2003 has per user TS CAL licensing which seems =
like a great thing if you have users who will access your terminal = servers
from more then one device. Now what happens if the users want = to use
Microsoft Office from multiple devices. Is Microsoft Office XP = in a
Windows 2003 per user terminal services environment still licensed = on a
per device basis or can it be licensed on a per use basis similar = to TS
CALS. For example I have a worker who works from home but = occasionally
needs to use Microsoft Office when he is at an Internet = caf=E9. Do I have
to purchase a office license for each device at the = Internet caf=E9.
Maybe I am missing something but why would Microsoft = license TS CALS on a
per user basis but only license office on a per = device basis. I apologize
if this was a dumb question.=20
Stephen
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