[THIN] Re: OT: Anyone using ACT! in Citrix or otherwise?
- From: Christopher Wilson <christofire@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:03:32 -0500
"Goldmine is a 'doddle' in TS environment". I had to look that one up.
"Doddle n. - an easy task," says Dictionary.com <http://Dictionary.com>.
I'll add that to my mental glossary of UK words ; )
Thanks for the help.
Cheers, (he said in an awkwardly American way)
Christopher
On 10/19/05, Nick Smith <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Just to add that recent Goldmine is a doddle in a TS environement. The
> migration from a version that old will be a little tricky (I think you'll
> need to upgrade teh data to v.5 then to current), but nothing very scary.
> Nick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Christopher Wilson [mailto:christofire@xxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* 19 October 2005 17:16
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Anyone using ACT! in Citrix or otherwise?
>
> The Goldmine install we have is a sweet Nostalgia inducing setup: Goldmine
> v3 for Win95 with a Novell 3.11 backend hosting a Btrieve database. I
> don't know who sold them on ACT!, but they do have some migration tools. I
> expect Goldmine would have a migration path as well.
> Looking at the Goldmine website
> (www.frontrange.com<http://www.frontrange.com/>)
> it appears to integrate with better than ACT!
>
> Have had to deal with BestSoftware (now Sage) when supporting their FAS
> product, and it was no picnic.
> Anyone else have any Goldmine endorsements?
> Anyone tried MS CRM?
> Thanks,
> CW
> On 10/19/05, Nick Smith <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > If you've already got Goldmine running, then MHO is you'd be mad to
> > move to Act. Severely backwards step in terms of functionality,
> > performances, stability and security. ACT does, however, win in terms of
> > ease of use. We've ot used 2005 at any size, but the previous version slowed
> > to an absolute crawl at one client with something like 4,000 records – which
> > Goldmine handles easily.
> >
> > Great for single user, OK for small (<5) workgroups, otherwise run a
> > mile.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > *Sent:* 19 October 2005 15:53
> > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Anyone using ACT! in Citrix or otherwise?
> >
> > I don't run it on Citrix, but I know this... ACT! 2005 moved to using
> > MSDE for it's DB. It uses a .PAD on the local machines file that then
> > references the database. You can use a central server with MSDE (or SQL I
> > believe) for the database and modify the PAD files appropriately.
> >
> > What this means is that it installs MSDE on every computer it is
> > installed. Even if you have a central server for the database there is no
> > way to tell it to NOT install MSDE. What I have not tried is disabling the
> > MSDE services on client machines with no actual DB and seeing if ACT still
> > works There is no uninstall for MSDE in add/remove programs since it's
> > installed as part of ACT.
> >
> > ACT is gotten considerably worse from an IT standpoint over the years. I
> > see that ACT 2006 is out, maybe it's better, but I'm extremely doubtful. I
> > say avoid at all costs.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> > Behalf Of *Christopher Wilson
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:50 AM
> > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > *Subject:* [THIN] OT: Anyone using ACT! in Citrix or otherwise?
> >
> > Howdy, List.
> >
> > I am looking for some real world feedback on ACT! 2005. We are looking
> > to replace an installation of Goldmine at a single location, ACT! is the
> > proposed solution (actually we already own it). I have heard negative
> > feedback about this app running client/server on PC's. If this is to be
> > deployed to multiple sites it is likely to be done with Citrix or with their
> > web client. Do you have any feedback about this product good or bad?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Christopher
> >
>
>
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