[THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

  • From: "Matthew Shrewsbury" <MShrewsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:50:03 -0500

Are you using Altiris for your server deployment?

 

Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+

Senior Network Administrator

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:48 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

 

How so?  I can bring a block of servers up in an hour so by dragging a
dropping a job.  No effort on my part.  Again, how often are SP
released?  Windows 2000 has 4 in the last 4-5 years... Windows 2003 has
1 SP that's been released since well 2003.

 

Joe

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:10 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

 

And each are rebuilt, for every SP?

 

YIKES!  That is what I call job security.

 

:-)

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:26 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

 

This client has 70 or so.

 

Joe

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:20 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

 

How many server do you have?

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:02 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

 

Yup...   It's easy to do and does not take a lot of time...   But of
course everything is built using scripts...  It would be difficult and
time consuming to do those servers that are built by hand.

 

Joe

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:50 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

 

So you flatten and rebuild your computers, when a new OS SP comes out?

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:31 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

 

We've always had better luck (With and SP on and MS OS) with installing
the SP on a fresh build of the OS, then install Apps, Citrix, and then
Hotfixes.

 

Installing a SP on an existing machine is generally an invite for
problems.

 

Joe

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of IT Support
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:26 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

 

Citrix was installed prior to the SP1 update...

Regards

Jaime

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: 14 December 2005 17:21
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

 

Are you installing SP1 after Citrix is installed? Or is this a fresh
w2k3 with SP1.

 

Joe

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of IT Support
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

 

Thanks Jeff,

 

Interestingly enough, we are moving from Windows 2003 MPS 4.0, to
Windows 2003 MPS 4.0 - Just the service pack added, hence we didn't
expect all this bother!!

 

Our UPHCLEAN is also of the latest flavor, but we will keep our eyes on
this one...

 

We seem to work in a blame environment whereas if it's not Microsoft's
fault then it will Citrix's!!

Regards

Jaime

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
Sent: 14 December 2005 16:46
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1

 

1)  There is funky thing microsoft runs with Win2k3 that seems to do
this.  Nothing to do with Citrix

2)  Again Windows and you need UPHCLEAN.

3)  yea hasn't changed in years even with 3.0

4)  Logoff button is windows

5)  yes when you change OS's many things change.  Why would IE settings
have anything to do with Citrix?  You mentioned profile being reset well
this is an effect of that.

 

When you make such large changes (I'm assumin gyour coming from Windows
2000 and MFXP) you have to expect these types of large changes. 

 

Jeff Pitsch

 

On 12/14/05, IT Support <it@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

Trying to get our printing problems resolved, we were advised by citrix
to put on Windows 2003 SP1 and roll up package PSE400W2K3R01
<http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX107504> 

We've just put both on a test server, and have noticed some very strange
oddities straight away...

1.      Profiles settings initially being wiped upon login. Fixed with
SDT & RDT <http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=238>  

2.      Profiles are now not being cleared down upon logoff - temporary
files remain.

3.      The login process has changed, no status boxes are displayed
upon login, and the splash screen now says "CITRIX METAFRAME XP SERVER
FOR WINDOWS" - huh? On an MPS4 box? 

4.      logoff button now says "Log Off DOMAIN\USERNAME" rather than
just "Log Off USERNAME"

5.      Internet Explorer options and settings have also changed, with
toolbar buttons defaulting to small, even though they were set to large
previously and other oddities - and new features that need testing and
locking down! 

And that's what we've noticed within five minutes of logging on!

Can anyone point us in the direction of a definitive list, and possible
further fixes???

Cheers.

 

 

 

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