Yup... _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:50 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 Are you using Altiris for your server deployment? Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Senior Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:48 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 How so? I can bring a block of servers up in an hour so by dragging a dropping a job. No effort on my part. Again, how often are SP released? Windows 2000 has 4 in the last 4-5 years. Windows 2003 has 1 SP that's been released since well 2003. Joe _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:10 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 And each are rebuilt, for every SP? YIKES! That is what I call job security. :-) _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:26 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 This client has 70 or so. Joe _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:20 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 How many server do you have? _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:02 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 Yup. It's easy to do and does not take a lot of time. But of course everything is built using scripts. It would be difficult and time consuming to do those servers that are built by hand. Joe _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:50 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 So you flatten and rebuild your computers, when a new OS SP comes out? _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:31 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 We've always had better luck (With and SP on and MS OS) with installing the SP on a fresh build of the OS, then install Apps, Citrix, and then Hotfixes. Installing a SP on an existing machine is generally an invite for problems. Joe _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of IT Support Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:26 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 Citrix was installed prior to the SP1 update. Regards Jaime _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: 14 December 2005 17:21 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 Are you installing SP1 after Citrix is installed? Or is this a fresh w2k3 with SP1. Joe _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of IT Support Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:55 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 Thanks Jeff, Interestingly enough, we are moving from Windows 2003 MPS 4.0, to Windows 2003 MPS 4.0 - Just the service pack added, hence we didn't expect all this bother!! Our UPHCLEAN is also of the latest flavor, but we will keep our eyes on this one. We seem to work in a blame environment whereas if it's not Microsoft's fault then it will Citrix's!! Regards Jaime _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch Sent: 14 December 2005 16:46 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MPS4 - WINDOWS 2003 SP1 1) There is funky thing microsoft runs with Win2k3 that seems to do this. Nothing to do with Citrix 2) Again Windows and you need UPHCLEAN. 3) yea hasn't changed in years even with 3.0 4) Logoff button is windows 5) yes when you change OS's many things change. Why would IE settings have anything to do with Citrix? You mentioned profile being reset well this is an effect of that. When you make such large changes (I'm assumin gyour coming from Windows 2000 and MFXP) you have to expect these types of large changes. Jeff Pitsch On 12/14/05, IT Support <it@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Trying to get our printing problems resolved, we were advised by citrix to put on Windows 2003 SP1 and roll up package <http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX107504> PSE400W2K3R01 We've just put both on a test server, and have noticed some very strange oddities straight away. 1. Profiles settings initially being wiped upon login. Fixed with SDT <http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=238> & RDT 2. Profiles are now not being cleared down upon logoff - temporary files remain. 3. The login process has changed, no status boxes are displayed upon login, and the splash screen now says "CITRIX METAFRAME XP SERVER FOR WINDOWS" - huh? On an MPS4 box? 4. logoff button now says "Log Off DOMAIN\USERNAME" rather than just "Log Off USERNAME" 5. Internet Explorer options and settings have also changed, with toolbar buttons defaulting to small, even though they were set to large previously and other oddities - and new features that need testing and locking down! And that's what we've noticed within five minutes of logging on! Can anyone point us in the direction of a definitive list, and possible further fixes??? Cheers.